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augie00 05-02-2005 01:43 PM

KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
KQ not suited is powerful, but does she know just how powerful it is?!??! What do I do on the river? Can anyone justify folding here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($399.60)
BB ($228)
UTG ($388.70)
UTG+1 ($454.30)
MP1 ($167.40)
Hero ($400)
MP3 ($1019.85)
CO ($238.60)
Button ($325.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, SB calls $24.

Turn: ($76) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, SB calls $32.

River: ($140) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero???

phil_ivey_fan 05-02-2005 01:57 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
you're going to need some reads here on the SB. That said, you probably should have bet a little more on the turn. He's got odds to call w/ a flush draw from your turn bet. I'd probably of fired at least 50 on the turn.

That said, it looks like he might have gotten there and was afraid you wouldn't bet again due to your small turn bet.

Slappz 05-02-2005 01:58 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
Thats a pretty small bet to call considering how big the pot is, I would just bite the bullet and pay him off.

flawless_victory 05-02-2005 02:03 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
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Can anyone justify folding here?


[/ QUOTE ]are you insane?? 4:1! i thought you were gonna ask if you should raise... whats up with that pathetic turn bet?

augie00 05-02-2005 02:07 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
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That said, you probably should have bet a little more on the turn. He's got odds to call w/ a flush draw from your turn bet.

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I don't think that he has a flush draw here. There are a few reasons for this:

I've got the K of diamonds. For him to have a flush draw he'd have to have Ax [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and I don't see him calling nearly a pot sized bet with ace high and a runner runner flush draw.

Given how quickly he called my bet on the flop on a relativley uncoordinated board, I gave him credit for a king (which may or may not have a higher kicker than mine).

I'd feel better about getting away from the hand on the turn had he raised me after betting 32 than betting 50...I don't want the pot to get too big.

aggie 05-02-2005 02:14 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
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are you insane?? 4:1! i thought you were gonna ask if you should raise... whats up with that pathetic turn bet?

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turnipmonster 05-02-2005 02:23 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
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are you insane?? 4:1! i thought you were gonna ask if you should raise... whats up with that pathetic turn bet?

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augie00 05-02-2005 02:33 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
Alright, uncle. I agree that it's an easy call on the river. However, why is everyone getting so up in arms about my bet on the turn. If an unknown player smooth calls on that flop when you make a big bet, wouldn't you give them credit for something that beats KQ? I'd rather proceed with caution than just firing out huge bets with a mediocre holding.

gomberg 05-02-2005 02:33 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
isn't a quick call usually drawing? He could have QJ or a Kx. What everyone else said...

radioheadfan 05-02-2005 02:37 PM

Re: KQ not suited - You have no idea just how powerful I am
 
Change the turn bet to something closer to $50.

Call that river blocking bet.


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