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12-12-2005 04:59 PM

Is this for real?
 

$10M buyin

Does anyone by chance have any more information about this? Any speculation on who'll be playing?

Gary

12-12-2005 05:20 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
I am at a loss for words but I can say with certainty any site that has these satelittes will get my money.

Allinlife 12-12-2005 05:42 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
that's just stupid

12-12-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Actually I don't think its stupid because for once we are going to see a tournament where the players will be absolutely hungry. I mean sure you see these guys playing goot at the WSOP but when there is 10 million on the line I can't see how they could each tune it out.

12-12-2005 05:56 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
I'm a little worried about what the stakes will do to the way the casual poker viewer looks at the WPT and WSOP. After seeing guys put up 8-figures each, is the money involved with a $10K buy-in still going to be exciting? For them, a big part of the thrill is seeing the money fly across the screen.

Gary

Army Eye 12-12-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
How the hell could they do an online satellite for this???

12-12-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
stages, maybe three or four?

fuego527 12-12-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
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stages, maybe three or four?

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or 100

augie00 12-12-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
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How the hell could they do an online satellite for this???

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They can't.

graydot 12-12-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
maybe they ment the 100k buyin instead?

Should be fun to watch if its true.. I didnt even know Ivey had 10 million

trying2learn 12-12-2005 06:43 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
i can't imagine them being able to find enough players to do this. it would be difficult to fill a s&g with a one million dollar buy in.

Barrett's Last Privateer 12-12-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Another link to the story from an Aussie site here.

Obviously has an Aussie bent, both quoting figures in AUD, and mentioning Hachem.

Salva135 12-12-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Think about it this way, you would need the equivalent of a winner-take-all 1,000 person major tournament (as defined today) to produce ONE seat.

"If it's OK with you, I think I'm going to opt for the cash value instead of using my seat."

Aceshigh7 12-12-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
I don't think this will happen.

ace_in_the_hole 12-12-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Why not slow down a bit and just do a $1 milion BI that would be crazy enough.

12-12-2005 07:35 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
I could only see this taking place if the players have a private prize splitting deal on the side. If the players are putting up 10 million, I'm sure there will be a few million in added money. The players make an agreement so they are splitting the added money according to finish.

This way everyone gets their buy-in back plus some and they all get credit for playing in the biggest game ever.

12-12-2005 07:40 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
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Why not slow down a bit and just do a $1 milion BI that would be crazy enough.

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Man, this is "Show Biz!" Thing megazillions!

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PairTheBoard 12-12-2005 08:22 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
From the link

""If Joe wants to play, we'd be happy to have him on board," Mr Longhurst said. "We're going to have talks with Joe." Mr Longhurst said players would either put up their own $13.3 million to play or have their entry fee paid by sponsors.

In high-stakes international poker competitions it is common for sponsors, such as online poker companies, to pay the entry fees for players they use to promote their online gambling sites."


PairTheBoard

bones 12-12-2005 09:00 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
[ QUOTE ]
From the link

""If Joe wants to play, we'd be happy to have him on board," Mr Longhurst said. "We're going to have talks with Joe." Mr Longhurst said players would either put up their own $13.3 million to play or have their entry fee paid by sponsors.

In high-stakes international poker competitions it is common for sponsors, such as online poker companies, to pay the entry fees for players they use to promote their online gambling sites."


PairTheBoard

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Something tells me that Stars won't be putting Evelyn Ng in this one.

NLfool 12-12-2005 09:31 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
damn I'd hate to see the vig on 10 million. stupid idea. I know a lot of gamblers who win and lose the equivalent of a Mercedes in day and even they won't gamble for this much. Y

12-12-2005 10:33 PM

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damn I'd hate to see the vig on 10 million.

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If I'm gettin' tha vig, it sounds pretty OK to me.

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Ulysses 12-13-2005 02:34 AM

Re: Is this for real?
 
bones,

Team PokerStars is bringing back Erin Ness for this event.

Leaky Eye 12-13-2005 08:44 AM

Re: Is this for real?
 
I will be using this tournament to launder cocaine profits.

12-13-2005 11:17 AM

Re: Is this for real?
 
anyone wanna stake me? i'm only short 10 million or so.

12-13-2005 11:20 AM

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Team PokerStars is bringing back Erin Ness for this event.

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God bless PokerStars!!!

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Lobo329 12-13-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Seriously, how could this even be real. Just think about the reality of those numbers. How much could Phil Ivey possibly have in his bankroll. And why would he want to gamble that much of it away in one shot? My guess is this, there are detail about this thing that we don't know about yet, or they will get sponsors to cover each players buy in, maybe up to 9 million or something like that. This thing just makes next to no sense.

Rusty266 12-13-2005 02:55 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
If this event does take place, I'm sure Phil Ivey would have no trouble getting as much of his entry paid as he likes. In other words there would be no shortage of backers for a player of his caliber.

troymclur 12-13-2005 03:19 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
From the link

""If Joe wants to play, we'd be happy to have him on board," Mr Longhurst said. "We're going to have talks with Joe." Mr Longhurst said players would either put up their own $13.3 million to play or have their entry fee paid by sponsors.

In high-stakes international poker competitions it is common for sponsors, such as online poker companies, to pay the entry fees for players they use to promote their online gambling sites."


PairTheBoard

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Something tells me that Stars won't be putting Evelyn Ng in this one.

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Bones,

You're avatar is a godsend.

12-13-2005 03:30 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
Also Ivey has stated that he believes that he needs to play higher stakes to take his game to the next level. I don't understand how that is possible because what would a 1 million dollar game do to his game that he doesn't already have?

Army Eye 12-13-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Seriously, how could this even be real. Just think about the reality of those numbers. How much could Phil Ivey possibly have in his bankroll. And why would he want to gamble that much of it away in one shot? My guess is this, there are detail about this thing that we don't know about yet, or they will get sponsors to cover each players buy in, maybe up to 9 million or something like that. This thing just makes next to no sense.

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I don't know about the sponsorship. Like somebody said in another thread, it would be far more than even a Super Bowl commercial.

PokerSlut 12-13-2005 06:08 PM

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Also Ivey has stated that he believes that he needs to play higher stakes to take his game to the next level.

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That makes absolutely no sense. Take it to what level? There are NO PLAYERS at that level.

Jonny5 12-13-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Greenstein
 
Barry Greenstein has the 10 million (whether or not he would like to risk it). However, I bet you he would have to slightly break his all tournament winnings go to charity rule.

shaniac 12-13-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Greenstein
 
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Barry Greenstein has the 10 million (whether or not he would like to risk it). However, I bet you he would have to slightly break his all tournament winnings go to charity rule.

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Not sure where your insight into his net worth comes from, but I think it's safe to say that there is no physical way to get 6 poker players to put up 10M, regardless of their net worth.

I could, however, see the 5 richest Arabian princes coming together to face off against Phil Ivey, who probably could raise a 10M stake. That would be a great show.

12-14-2005 09:32 AM

Re: Greenstein
 
What about rebuys?



Seriously, though, I can't see Phil Ivey playing in this unless it a has really, really slow structure.

12-14-2005 01:02 PM

Re: Greenstein
 
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Barry Greenstein has the 10 million (whether or not he would like to risk it). However, I bet you he would have to slightly break his all tournament winnings go to charity rule.

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Barry said in the commentary of the pokerstars online world series that if he runs bad for a week in the big game he's usually broke (he later clarified that he meant "cash broke" and would have to liquidate some things). Something tells me he's not losing 10 million by running bad for a week, so I highly doubt he has that kind of a roll.

setzf 12-14-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
"60 million dollar winner take all tournament? They might as well say they're giving away the state of Louisiana"---Todd Brunson on Carplayer.com video interview.

Damn that made me laugh.

Jooka 12-14-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Greenstein
 
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What about rebuys?



Seriously, though, I can't see Phil Ivey playing in this unless it a has really, really slow structure.

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http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/det...291efb7645faa01

Tilt 12-14-2005 06:12 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
There will be so many staking arrangements and side deals necessary for these guys to get into this at these stakes that what we see on the surface - a poker game - is going to be more like a derivative market behind the scenes. The range of outcomes for the participants will be far removed from the winner take all scenario advertised.

JohnnyFX 12-14-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Is this for real?
 
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"60 million dollar winner take all tournament? They might as well say they're giving away the state of Louisiana"---Todd Brunson on Carplayer.com video interview.

Damn that made me laugh.

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Link?

Lobo329 12-14-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Greenstein
 
THe more that I read about this thing, the more unrealistic this whole thing actually sounds.

Is it possible that they did this to drum up name recognition for this soon-to-be-launched pokersite?


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