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12-06-2005 02:50 PM

The Jays are the best team in the AL East
 
I know most people think that the Yankees or Sox are better but think about it. The Jays have Halladay, Burnett,Chacin,Towers, Lilly, Batista which is a great rotation. There bullpen is not great but Ryan should make it competent. Last year they had the 5th best offense in the AL and considering they'll probably trade to get a better hitter now that they have Burnett and that a lot of there young guys like Hill, Rios and Russ Adams should have a better year than last there offense could easily be one of the best three in the AL. Also now that Boston is losing Manny teams will pitch around Ortiz who really is there only offensive weapon. The Yankees are getting old and have been slowly getting worse the past few years and now that they are in debt they won't spend that much money this offseason. Personally I think the Jays have a really good chance of winning the AL East and even if they don't they'll have a good chance at the wild card.

kenberman 12-06-2005 02:53 PM

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ok, I'll bet you that the Blue Jays will not win the AL east this year.

pokerdirty 12-06-2005 03:02 PM

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ok, I'll bet you that the Blue Jays will not win the AL east this year.

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i'll give him 2-1

Matt Williams 12-06-2005 03:16 PM

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I must be the only Yankee fan worried about the Jays. I wouldn't be surprised to see NY finish under .500 next year. They still don't have a CF, Posada is getting old, who knows what's going on at 1B. They lost Gordon in the pen. No lead-off hitter, too many DH's, ect. Doesn't look good in NY.

Hornacek 12-06-2005 03:22 PM

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Didn't they sign Farnsworth for Gordon's job? And Giambi is the full time 1b now, right?

I could see them trade for Pierre soon...

sam h 12-06-2005 03:48 PM

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I must be the only Yankee fan worried about the Jays. I wouldn't be surprised to see NY finish under .500 next year. They still don't have a CF, Posada is getting old, who knows what's going on at 1B. They lost Gordon in the pen. No lead-off hitter, too many DH's, ect. Doesn't look good in NY.

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I'm not a Yankee fan but I'll happily agree with you. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

When you have an old team like the Yankees, maintaining the status quo is almost always going to be a net loss on the previous season. There's variance, of course, but all things being equal we would expect almost all of their key players except A-Rod, Matsui, Pavano, and perhaps Jeter to be getting progressively worse at this point in their careers.

I also think the Yankees got some good luck last year, getting great production out of some very marginal players like Small, Wang, Cano, and Chacon. Admittedly, they are unlikely to have the same pitching injuries, but I honestly doubt a healthy Wright and Pavano will be better than what they got out of their patchwork rotation in the second half

PTjvs 12-06-2005 03:52 PM

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The Jays are the best team in the AL East

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ok, I'll bet you that the Blue Jays will not win the AL east this year.

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i'll give him 2-1

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Talk to me closer to spring training, but I may take 4-1 if you are interested then.

pokerdirty 12-06-2005 04:18 PM

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The Jays are the best team in the AL East

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ok, I'll bet you that the Blue Jays will not win the AL east this year.

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i'll give him 2-1

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Talk to me closer to spring training, but I may take 4-1 if you are interested then.

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The bet is for Eagleskickass. I want him to put his money where his mouth is.

pryor15 12-06-2005 04:56 PM

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I know most people think that the Yankees or Sox are better but think about it.

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i'm thinking about it...and...nope.

burnett's just not that good, really, certainly not as good as josh beckett. nyy will find a way to win, b/c that's what they do. do you really think george will let a little debt get in the way of playoff push? and do you really think boston trades manny if they can't get some offensive firepower in return? boston had offense to spare last year, they just couldn't get people out.

pokerdirty 12-06-2005 05:07 PM

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burnett's just not that good

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12-12 last year with a 3.45 ERA, on a disappointing Marlins team last year. His WHIP is a little high, 1.26, but I think those 198 Ks make it a little better. I feel like he would be one of the premier pitchers in the league by now if he could complete back to back seasons without injury.


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