Running it twice...
 

How about some detailed situations when you would offer... or accept... an offer to run it twice or more.

Also justifications for same.

Re: Running it twice...
 

it doesnt change the EV of the hand at all, it just reduces variance.

Re: Running it twice...
 

When you flop the nuts, but there are draws all over the place. It would help you if your hand is a favorite, obviously, to run it more times.

Re: Running it twice...
 

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it doesnt change the EV of the hand at all, it just reduces variance.

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Lets say youre playing with a lot of money and have As Ac and get it all in on board of Th 6s 7s against Ts Js. You might offer to run it more than once--and generally you'd do it three times here, for one third of the pot each time, since its a near-coinflip situation. This way the fact that you both made the decision to gamble doesnt get lost, someone will win money, but probably not the whole pot.

Incidentally, in this situation, you burn, turn, burn, river, muck the cards, then do the same twice more. You do not shuffle cards back into deck.

Re: Running it twice...
 

the one time i saw it happen, the hand went like this:

UTG raised, Gambler called

Flop - 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG bet, Gambler raised, UTG pushed

Gambler says, "well, i think you have aces. you have the best hand right now, but i'll call if we can run it twice." the other guy says, "okay." Gambler pushes his chips in the middle and flips over Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], UTG shows A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

The first run comes runner-runner clubs then the second run blanks off giving AA the scoop.

Re: Running it twice...
 

This is a good idea if:

It doesn't slow the game down too much.
You can't handle variance.
If someone in the hand goes broke, the game would break.

Re: Running it twice...
 

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This is a good idea if:

It doesn't slow the game down too much.
You can't handle variance.
If someone in the hand goes broke, the game would break.

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I don't think "You can't handle variance" is relevant. If you can't handle the variance, you shouldn't be in the game.

Re: Running it twice...
 

I'd run it twice everytime if it were for a decent amount of money. Unless the deck is hot.

-SmileyEH

Re: Running it twice...
 

The only time I would refuse to run it twice is if I'm at a standard stack and a fish is on a double-stack. In that case, I want to build up to cover the fish, so splitting the pot half-and-half doesn't do me any good, whereas if I lose the hand, I can rebuy to where I was anyway.

Re: Running it twice...
 

The only reason not to (aside from gambling which can be fun) I think would be to get a big stack.

Say there is a capped buyin of 100b and some fish has 250 or whatever... I'd rather try to get enough to gamble with him.