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W. Deranged 11-01-2005 03:57 AM

A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
Villain in this hand was new to the table. He'd sat for 15 hands, of which he had played 1, and it was for a raise. He didn't show it down.

Party 10/20 (9max, 9-handed)

I'm UTG+1 with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

1 fold, I raise, one fold, Villain (MP1) three-knocks it, folded around and I call.

Two to the flop for 7.5 SB.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, Villain calls.

Two to the turn for ~5.5 BB.

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, Villain bets, I raise, Villain three-bets, I call.

Two to the river for 11.5 BB.

River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I check, Villain bets, I call.


What do y'all think?

toss 11-01-2005 03:59 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
I'd only call the turn 3-bet if I wanted to checkraise the river. I think you placed villain on AA too soon here.

I'd rather checkraise the flop.

Piiop 11-01-2005 04:01 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
I think you stopped too soon too. 6 BBs for turn+river.

W. Deranged 11-01-2005 04:05 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
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I think you stopped too soon too. 6 BBs for turn+river.

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With what I've seen of this opponent, he's somewhere in the sane-passive-reasonable area.

I think that on the 6th BB we are absolute toast, personally. If we cap the turn, lead the river, and get raised, are we ever winning?

toss 11-01-2005 04:08 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
If we cap and get raised on the river theres a good chance we're beat. However I think your letting villain get to showdown too cheaply when he has AKs, AKo.

Piiop 11-01-2005 04:10 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
It's only been 15 hands.

I agree that on the 6th bet you'll probably be behind more often than not, but you'll be ahead more often on the 5th. Your line only gets 4.

hobbsmann 11-01-2005 08:51 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
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I think you stopped too soon too. 6 BBs for turn+river.

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With what I've seen of this opponent, he's somewhere in the sane-passive-reasonable area.

I think that on the 6th BB we are absolute toast, personally. If we cap the turn, lead the river, and get raised, are we ever winning?

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The times he has AQ.

sean c 11-01-2005 09:02 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
Hi WD given the hand range of villian i don't like the turn check. Let him call down with his big pair or raise a big ace. I rather get in 1-3 bets vs 0-2 on the turn or worse yet he even folds to a turn check/raise. As played i capp the turn and bet/call the river if he has AA o well.

Evan 11-01-2005 09:04 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
If you're going to bet the flop you should bet the turn.

brettbrettr 11-01-2005 09:21 AM

Re: A Hand That Made Me Happy and Sad and Maybe Happy Again...
 
Pre-flop, flop, fine. I *hate* the turn check. And I'd cap it too.


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