Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t1120)
MP1 (t1650)
MP2 (t1340)
MP3 (t1590)
CO (t1460)
Button (t1510)
SB (t1840)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1490)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t60</font>, MP1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t60, Button calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t510</font>, UTG+1 calls t450, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button calls t450.

Flop: (t1665) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t330</font>, UTG+1 calls t330, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t690</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t3015

Made the overraise preflop because I was in no way interested in a domino effect 5 way pot with QQ. And just picking up 300 wouldn't be to bad. Post flop, should I just check/fold? Made the small bet to make it look like I want action, waste of 330 obv.

Argh! I donked this bad I felt. Ugly, ugly hand. Maybe I should just push this preflop since I have no idea how to play it postflop postflop?

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

why did you reraise so much pf?

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

check/fold that flop and save your chips.

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

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check/fold that flop and save your chips.

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and on top of that either call pf with this many players or make a lower reraise. this is still only a $16 and players with big Aces and Kings will still come along for the ride. without being all-in, you lost more than you had to with Q Q on this hand, especially with [ 2 ] overcards on the flop.

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

Check fold the flop. I only raise to t300-400 or so preflop as well. I don't call QQ in a $16.

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

Didn't think it was unlikely both were on mid pocket pairs. The big preflopraise is to take down the pot there and then or get it HU. If I raised to for example 200 and UTG+1 calls, I'm pretty sure the rest comes along as well. So then I get to play QQ in a 5 way pot OOP(basicly play it for setvalue), I don't want that.

I could just call as you said, but that seems a little bit too weak.

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

Check-fold is pretty obvious when I look at it now. Just in the heat of the moment I was a bit too worked up seeing that [censored] flop. Too stubborn and didn't want to make a huge raise only to check fold. If you only raise to 300-400 in this situation 90% of the time it will be a multiway pot. And if you should then check fold any flop with overcards I think I prefer pushing PF even if the blinds are micro. There is still possible to just increase my stck 20% right there and then.

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

OOP to the flop, with THIS many already in, I'd choose to lurk in the weeds here with my QQ. Call PF, check-raise (as much as AI if the action dictates so) a non-A/K flop...check/fold with the overs on board.

Over-reraising PF should have been more effective. But regardless, your reraise was too big. Reraising to t250ish will often get you HU...still understanding that the likely caller is holding a large Ace.

Even though a mid-PP is just as likely a caller of a PF reraise, your positional disadvantage - and now a HUGE pot, makes taking the lead on an over-flop very dicey.

Meh...the whole situation sucks really. 5 to the flop, you could be facing all kinds of draws, flopped two-pairs, etc.etc.etc.

Fold PF [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

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Check fold the flop. I only raise to t300-400 or so preflop as well. I don't call QQ in a $16.

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maybe you don't but with 4 players already in the pot, i'm looking at how Q Q will fare postflop [this is a $16]. i've definitely called in this spot several times and avoided losing not only alot of chips, but my shirt in the process. i'm figuring that you're up against at least 2 players in this hand that have at least [1] of their cards as an Ace or a King. i'd rather play my Qs against one or two opponents. once you get over [3], that's when problems can happen. if 4 people are already in the pot pf for 60 and you look down Queens, i'm thinking who's suited, who has overcards, who has A K/A Q, and A A/K K?

Re: Hated this, what should I have done (Stars 16 Turbo)
 

Raise to 250-300 preflop. And definately check/fold that flop. You gotta learn to let go of QQ. I'd check/fold KK on an A high flop against 2 opponents a lot of the time.