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yvesaint 11-20-2005 06:48 PM

normally i push this but stacks are all messed up
 
stars 500k

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t6520)
UTG+1 (t1193)
MP1 (t2765)
MP2 (t7635)
MP3 (t2970)
CO (t1180)
Button (t1995)
SB (t1950)
Hero (t6570)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t525) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, UTG raises to t1200, MP3 folds, Hero ??

800 for me to call into 2100, if i push it would be for like 5k more

nothing special, but he seems decent, does play hands fairly fast (raised strong with top set on the flop)

billyjex 11-20-2005 06:51 PM

Re: normally i push this but stacks are all messed up
 
push. another club kills all your action, you have plenty of folding equity, and even if you are unlucky and run into a set or made flush you have a decent amount of outs.

EverettKings 11-20-2005 07:12 PM

Re: normally i push this but stacks are all messed up
 
If you push the flop your hand loses some credibility and you lose a chunk of the fold equity that makes this spot so profitable.


I much prefer a committing reraise, to like 3200. You're likely behind, but to something like QJ/KJ/AJ. The good thing is that if it's AJ, he has no club, and if its QJ/KJ, its probably suited, which means he has no club. But why is it good that he has no club? Because while KcJx is exceedingly unlikely to fold, KdJd probably cries and folds to a reraise. You *could* just call and go from the turn, but 1) he might have something foldable on the flop and you missed your shot, 2) he might bet you out on the turn (though a checkraise all in on the turn isnt a terrible plan), and 3) if you hit anything but the 9, it will be hard to get paid. I much prefer to just attack the pot now. And if he pushes, well, you only have 15 outs.


Everett

Exitonly 11-20-2005 07:14 PM

Re: normally i push this but stacks are all messed up
 
push looks wierd, i like a riase to 3000 and putting the rest in on the turn if he calls.


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