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samjjones 10-13-2005 02:15 PM

Rocky VI Underway
 
Is This A Good Idea?

10-13-2005 02:23 PM

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Why call it Rocky 6? Why not celebrate Stallone's age, by calling it Rocky 60?

imported_The Vibesman 10-13-2005 02:24 PM

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It would seem like a better idea than the fourth Rambo movie, which that article mentions Stallone is trying to get made.

Everyone hates Rocky V, I didn't think it was any worse than Rocky IV. No matter how bad it was, the bit with Mickey screaming in his head as he tries to get off the pavement is good.

"What are ya doing down there? I didn't hear no bell! One more round, Rock...Mickey loves ya."

imported_The Vibesman 10-13-2005 02:25 PM

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Why call it Rocky 6? Why not celebrate Stallone's age, by calling it Rocky 60?

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Shortsighted. Then what would he call the 60th Rocky movie when it comes out?

samjjones 10-13-2005 02:26 PM

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I concur that Rocky V has its moments. Unfortunately, most of them are centered around the unintentionally hilarious performance by Tommy Morrison. Rocky V might be the most quotable of all of them, actually.

Phoenix1010 10-13-2005 02:38 PM

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Is he going to fight, or is it about his son? Have their been any halfway decent modern sequels to any of the classics? Hollywood just can't leave a good thing alone, I'll be avoiding this movie out of protest.

manpower 10-13-2005 02:39 PM

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http://www.80stees.com/images/produc...t_bum_link.jpg

jakethebake 10-13-2005 02:41 PM

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Everyone hates Rocky V, I didn't think it was any worse than Rocky IV.

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I think you're usually dead on, but wow...this is just blasphemy.

Duke 10-13-2005 02:42 PM

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I concur that Rocky V has its moments. Unfortunately, most of them are centered around the unintentionally hilarious performance by Tommy Morrison. Rocky V might be the most quotable of all of them, actually.

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Oh no way.

If he dies, he dies. I must break you. Hit the one in the middle. My Prediction? PAIN.

As an aside, I think it's time for a "Movies" forum.

~D

Duke 10-13-2005 02:43 PM

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Have their been any halfway decent modern sequels to any of the classics?

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Batman Begins kinda fits into this category.

~D

utmt40 10-13-2005 02:50 PM

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http://data.over-blog.com/lib/5/4/83...cs/movie93.jpg

Phoenix1010 10-13-2005 02:56 PM

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Oh that's a pretty good one. Unfourtunately for every Batman Begins there are five Terminator 3's.

jdl22 10-13-2005 03:03 PM

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Does Rocky keep getting his ass kicked by lesser opposition but keep fighting because he believes the lord wants him to once again be undisputed heavyweight champion but there's not a chance in hell he will win even one belt then at the end he gets banned from boxing because he's too old and his skill level has diminished and they ban him for his own good?

ptmusic 10-13-2005 03:08 PM

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As long as Frank Stallone sings, I'm paying.

-ptmusic

swede123 10-13-2005 03:13 PM

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Everyone hates Rocky V, I didn't think it was any worse than Rocky IV.

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I think you're usually dead on, but wow...this is just blasphemy.

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I second this. Rocky IV is such a superb 80s action flick, while Rocky V is just poo.

Swede

10-13-2005 03:18 PM

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Everyone hates Rocky V, I didn't think it was any worse than Rocky IV.

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Apollo dies, and Rocky flies to Russia sans Adrienne to train for a fight with a 6'5" killer, on Christmas? How is this not better than a movie with an HIV+ guy and a Don King wannabe?

It all boils down to which movie has more screen time for James Brown, and that is hands down Rocky IV.

Yeti 10-13-2005 03:24 PM

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Oh that's a pretty good one. Unfourtunately for every Batman Begins there are five Terminator 3's.

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T3 was waaaaay more fun than the snoozefest that was BB.

Duke 10-13-2005 03:29 PM

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Oh that's a pretty good one. Unfourtunately for every Batman Begins there are five Terminator 3's.

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T3 was waaaaay more fun than the snoozefest that was BB.

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It is extremely difficult for an opinion to be incorrect, but you have succeeded where most others fail. Jolly good.

~D

10-13-2005 03:44 PM

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Is he going to fight, or is it about his son?

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Heck no, his son isn't gonna fight! His son would be too old to fight anymore!

How ironic..

manpower 10-13-2005 03:50 PM

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Oh that's a pretty good one. Unfourtunately for every Batman Begins there are five Terminator 3's.

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T3 was waaaaay more fun than the snoozefest that was BB.

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Shajen 10-13-2005 03:51 PM

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sans Adrienne

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Great idea.

imported_The Vibesman 10-13-2005 04:01 PM

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Everyone hates Rocky V, I didn't think it was any worse than Rocky IV.

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I think you're usually dead on, but wow...this is just blasphemy.

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Apollo dies, and Rocky flies to Russia sans Adrienne to train for a fight with a 6'5" killer, on Christmas? How is this not better than a movie with an HIV+ guy and a Don King wannabe?

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It all boils down to which movie has more screen time for James Brown, and that is hands down Rocky IV.

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I like to stir the pot a little. Maybe saying that Rocky V is no worse than Rocky IV is going too far...but I think Rocky IV is a pretty damn bad movie. Getting past everyone letting an exhibition bout between a huge Russian killer and a retired fighter get to the point where the retired fighter gets killed, we have a heavyweight champ flying to Russia to fight on Christmas for free. BS. The ridiculous montage involving the juxtaposition of their training methods. Since when is Paulie qualified to be in his corner anyway? The Russian crowd starting to root for Rocky at the end, sure, that'd happen. The "If I can change, you can change," speech after he wins. This film is one long piece of cheese. It's an enjoyable piece of cheese in some ways, especially to those of us that are tremendous fans of the first Rocky film(s).

I'll admit, I went too far. Rocky V is definitely worse. It's not even really watchable until the last half-hour, but right when Tommy goes back to the old neighborhood to goad Rocky into fighting, and knocks down Paulie ("You shoulda left him on the street where you found him,"), I start enjoying the movie. And I'm a sucker for any bit with Mickey in it.

Maybe that's why I didn't like Rocky IV as much as some other guys did. No Mickey.

Admittedly, I hadn't thought about the James Brown angle. That is a fantastic point. Any film with James Brown has got to be better than...well...any film without.

Yeti 10-13-2005 04:15 PM

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T3 was waaaaay more fun than the snoozefest that was BB.

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Oh fk! I take back everything I said. You have obviously proven me wrong.

flatline 10-13-2005 04:15 PM

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Have their been any halfway decent modern sequels to any of the classics?

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The Color of Money is the only one that comes to mind.

imported_The Vibesman 10-13-2005 04:20 PM

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Have their been any halfway decent modern sequels to any of the classics?

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The Color of Money is the only one that comes to mind.

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That's the one I thought of, but it's really not even that good, very overrated movie, especially in comparison to The Hustler, which is just brilliant. I guess Color of Money could be described as half-decent though.

The new Superman Returns looks like it'll be interesting.

Maybe any Bond fans could comment on the new films vs. the old ones. I'm not really a fan of either, tho I have seen a bunch of them.

swede123 10-13-2005 04:21 PM

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Vibesman, bro. You have to see Rocky IV for what it is, a really great bad 80s movie. It shares this honor with lots and lots of movies from the 80s, that have turned into classics not because of their qualities but because of their severe cheesiness. Meanwhile, Rocky V is just a bad movie. I think that's why everyone is going nuts about your statement.

Swede

Bradyams 10-13-2005 04:35 PM

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The Russian crowd starting to root for Rocky at the end, sure, that'd happen.

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That's the one part of that movie that really pissed me off. There is no way that would happen.

swede123 10-13-2005 04:40 PM

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The Russian crowd starting to root for Rocky at the end, sure, that'd happen.

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That's the one part of that movie that really pissed me off. There is no way that would happen.

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But a 6'6" dude would get smacked around by a 5'6" Stallone. Come on guys, the appeal of IV is that nothing makes sense.

Swede

Voltron87 10-13-2005 04:42 PM

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I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies.

10-13-2005 04:52 PM

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I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies.

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This is grounds for banishment from OOT.

samjjones 10-13-2005 04:52 PM

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Whoa...lets slow down here. Nobody is insinuating Rocky V is anywhere near as entertaining as Rocky IV. IMO, Rocky IV is definitely the most rewatchable of all five (Rocky III is close behind). It does have its merits, however.

swede123 10-13-2005 04:52 PM

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I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies.

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This is grounds for the death sentence in Texas.

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Shajen 10-13-2005 04:55 PM

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I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies.

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I predict: PAIN.

samjjones 10-13-2005 04:56 PM

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Maybe, if I can change....and you can change....someday...Voltron can change.

ptmusic 10-13-2005 04:57 PM

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Whoa...lets slow down here. Nobody is insinuating Rocky V is anywhere near as entertaining as Rocky IV. IMO, Rocky IV is definitely the most rewatchable of all five (Rocky III is close behind). It does have its merits, however.

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Rocky (I) isn't more watchable? It's actually a great movie.

-ptmusic

samjjones 10-13-2005 05:00 PM

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No. Rocky is definitely a great movie, but it has to spend so much time on character development and the Rocky/Adrian romance that it is a chore to tune into the end. Rocky IV, on the other hand, benefits from already having all of its characters well-defined, and can jump right into fantastic subplots like Rocky's kid aging 10 years in one movie, Rocky and Apollo becoming best friends, James Brown's showstopping tour de force, and Paulie getting a robot.

swede123 10-13-2005 05:01 PM

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Whoa...lets slow down here. Nobody is insinuating Rocky V is anywhere near as entertaining as Rocky IV. IMO, Rocky IV is definitely the most rewatchable of all five (Rocky III is close behind). It does have its merits, however.

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Rocky (I) isn't more watchable? It's actually a great movie.

-ptmusic

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I don't think he's arguing that IV is a better movie than the original, rewatchability doesn't always mean a better movie though. Of course The Seven Samurai is a better movie than Office Space, yet I feel the urge to watch Office Space much more often.

Swede

samjjones 10-13-2005 05:02 PM

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I don't think he's arguing that IV is a better movie than the original, rewatchability doesn't always mean a better movie though. Of course The Seven Samurai is a better movie than Office Space, yet I feel the urge to watch Office Space much more often.

Swede

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I'm sorry...I thought this was a given. For instance, "Apocalypse Now" is a great movie, but I'd much rather watch "Road House" for the 782nd time when I'm sitting around with friends drinking a few beers.

McGahee 10-13-2005 05:03 PM

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The 2nd round of the fight simply makes Rocky IV a classic.
If you don't get chills watching Rock pummel the Russian after the bell rings, followed by each corner storming the ring & throwing chairs...well, that's just good cinema.
"He's cut! The Russian is cut and it's a bad cut!"

jakethebake 10-13-2005 05:05 PM

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The 2nd round of the fight simply makes Rocky IV a classic.
If you don't get chills watching Rock pummel the Russian after the bell rings, followed by each corner storming the ring & throwing chairs...well, that's just good cinema.
"He's cut! The Russian is cut and it's a bad cut!"

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Oh come on. Clearly the best line was: He is not a man, he is like a piece of iron.


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