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Spook 12-09-2005 05:08 AM

big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
UTG is 40/25/1.13 over 40 hands
Button is 57/25/2.13 over 100+ hands

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>

imported_leader 12-09-2005 05:14 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
Wow that's tough. I'd probably fold the river.

12-09-2005 05:16 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
That would be tough to lay down, but in this situation given that a Jack is usually played by loose players (or any player with another good card), it might be best to fold. The pot is huge too so in theory, a call may be your best play since you will get a huge payoff if your fours hold up.

Again, I'm new at this kind of stuff so don't rip me up if i'm wrong.

Spook 12-09-2005 05:20 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
Cap the turn, no reason to think you are behind to JJ and you have outs against 22.
It also makes the river an easy fold. Or possibly just one to call.

imported_leader 12-09-2005 05:27 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
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Cap the turn, no reason to think you are behind to JJ and you have outs against 22.
It also makes the river an easy fold. Or possibly just one to call.

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If we don't cap, we get to see if UTG will. Does this effect anything for you?

Spook 12-09-2005 05:34 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
I only see him capping hands with trips or better. 45s is definately something he would limp. As is A4s. But I see him raising the field here with a pocket pair 55-88, or Ahxh, and not capping. Button could have anything.
I think I loss value by not capping.

imported_leader 12-09-2005 05:57 AM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I only see him capping hands with trips or better. 45s is definately something he would limp. As is A4s. But I see him raising the field here with a pocket pair 55-88, or Ahxh, and not capping. Button could have anything.
I think I loss value by not capping.

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Could be. Just figured I throw that out there.

raze 12-09-2005 12:06 PM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
What can you beat? With PFR% = 25, no one slowplayed a big pocket pair

jba 12-09-2005 12:23 PM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
yeah, fold the river.

I don't cap the turn, I figure I'm drawing to three outs most of the time there.

gonzopro 12-09-2005 12:28 PM

Re: big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)
 
Clear river fold (but it hurts).


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