The Apocalypse Hand
 

Below are two hands, though I only give you the first not for feedback but merely as a 'prologue' to 2nd hand; "The Apocalypse Hand", so you can better understand my play and rate it given the circumstances.

Therefore the first hand is in <font color="#666666">this color </font>, I would really like your opinions on the 2nd hand, that is "The Apocalypse Hand".

For quick reference though, before you begin:

- Seat 2 is a total clownshoe who caps 3rd and 4th with nothing against an opponent with rolled up 5's just before The Apocalypse Hand. (He dumped so much maniacally and quickly I thought he was purposely losing it for money laundering reasons or something!)

- Seat 5 as you can tell from the prologue hand is not the greatest player in the world.

With that being said, welcome to the depths of hell:

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The prologue hand
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7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___folds

4th Street - (13.88 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (8.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (12.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (16.94 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___folds
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (18.94 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $72.75 | Rake: $3</font>

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Seat 5: [ Kd Td 5c Tc 6d 4d Ts ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Kd,Td,Tc,Ts,6d ]

Hero: [ Qd Qc 4h 9d 3h 9c 4c ] [ two pairs, queens and nines -- Qd,Qc,9d,9c,4h ]</font>

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The Apocalypse Hand
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7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street - (16.00 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (10.50 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls

6th Street - (25.50 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

River - (33.50 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___calls___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls

Total pot: (45.50 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $179 | Rake: $3

Results to be made public after a few opinions, please.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

Demi Moore just called me about the party poker promotion. PartyPokerPromotion? , ppp, upside down = 666.

Yes it is the end. It was nice reading your posts, thanks.

Actually now that I think of it the miniboat is pretty vulnerable to any 2pair hitting on the river.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

I don't know how to read the "white writing", so I couldn't read the results of the first hand, but I get the idea. Even so, are you saying that these fools play so bad that you actually won this hand? No way.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
I don't know how to read the "white writing", so I couldn't read the results of the first hand, but I get the idea. Even so, are you saying that these fools play so bad that you actually won this hand? No way.

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Just click on the white writing and while holding down the button move your mouse over it and it appears.

Also, on the Apoc hand, try and put hands on them and guess who won, and give me advice what you would have done differently.

Cheers.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

Who can tell what players have when they don't know what they have? I'll try to guess anyway. Seat 2 has 9's &amp; 5's. Seat 4 has J's up, &amp; seat 5 could have anything, who knows? Against these guys, I think you played it perfectly.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

When I read this I thought seat 2 caught trip 9's on 5th. If so it really wouldn't be a surprise if you end up losing this hand.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

First hand I would flat-call on third. I don't want to build a big pot with a dead hand.

On the second hand, I would just call the river against a normal opponent. You've represented a full house, and the other guy bets into you anyway. If he's a complete monkey, you should probably raise once.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

When the guy bets out again on the river, I would already put him on a bigger boat. His cards are completely live. Not saying I'd fold, but I wouldn't raise.

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

Come on SDM, What do they have? The suspense is killing me. (Actually, I know that seat 5 won it with a real piece of shat).

Re: The Apocalypse Hand
 

</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
First hand I would flat-call on third. I don't want to build a big pot with a dead hand.

On the second hand, I would just call the river against a normal opponent. You've represented a full house, and the other guy bets into you anyway. If he's a complete monkey, you should probably raise once.

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He is a monkey, I raised once, thought about doing it again but didn't, here's the results:

<font color="white">Seat 2: [ 5s Tc 5h 9s 9d 7d 5c ] [ a full house, Fives full of nines -- 9s,9d,5s,5h,5c ] Rivered it!

Seat 4: [ 7h 4h Jh Th 4c Qs 4d ] [ three of a kind, fours -- Qs,Jh,4h,4c,4d ]

Seat 5: [ Qc Jc 4s Kd Qd 8c Qh ] [ three of a kind, queens -- Kd,Qc,Qd,Qh,Jc ]

Hero: [ 2h Ad Ac 7s 2d 2c 3h ] [ a full house, Twos full of aces -- Ad,Ac,2h,2d,2c ]</font>