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Maybe this is common (god I hope not) and I just never knew it cuz I dont go to Starbucks. But I went to starbucks tonight to get hot chocolate for the GF, and there was a [censored] tip cup sitting on the ledge at the drive thru. Now to be clear, it wasnt the McDonalds, spare change for the needy type bin. It was a plastic cup with the word "Tips" written on it.

Even worse, it was actually full of money. I prayed to baby jesus that someone would drive off with it

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You obviously do not appreciate a good barrista.

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I never put money in those things. I'll put my loose change into the charity type containers but for some reason I go out of my way not to put any money in the tip cups. Is this the way most people are or am I just a dick?

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about as much as I appreciate the guy who makes my chalupa at taco bell, yet im not made to feel obliged to tip him.

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There's drive thru starbucks?

WTF? How did I miss this? Not that I drink starbucks anyway.

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do you tip bartenders?

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I dont tip the bartender because he did such an awesome job pulling the lever to poor my beer. I tip him so that in the future I get served quicker, or so that hes a little more generous when making my long island. neither of which is happening at the drive thru of a coffee shop.

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the only reasoning I would agree with you is that starbucks servers make their $$ off of their hourly wage.

Bartenders in the biggest clubs get paid [censored] hourly and primarly make their $$ from tips

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Meh. If you don't want to tip, then don't. But why so upset at having it there for people who do want to tip?

FWIW, I almost never tip at coffee shops. If the girl at the counter is especially cute I might. If I paid cash, I always leave my change on the countertop for the next person (same with fast food before I gave it up and grocery stores and stuff). Funny thing, yesterday at the coffee shop right outside Nordstrom I put my change on the counter (some really rando amount like $.72 or something) and walked over to pick up my drip. Like 15 seconds later as I was walking away to join some friends who already had a table, the 30'ish year old lady who was behind me in line yells at me in excitement to tell me I left her the exact change she needed. She seemed really over-excited by it which made me smile.

GoT

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Meh. If you don't want to tip, then don't. But why so upset at having it there for people who do want to tip?

FWIW, I [...] never tip at coffee shops.

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Meh. If you don't want to tip, then don't. But why so upset at having it there for people who do want to tip?

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I hate feeling like an [censored] for not tipping. Which I suppose is some inner conflict I need to resolve and not the fault of the chick at starbucks.

Either way tho I think it is incredibly lame that the people who work at places like starbucks and subway feel they are entitled to tips, yet their job is nothing like any of the other proffesions that earn tips, and is pretty much exactly like the guy working the fryer at Mcdonalds who would never dream of getting tipped.

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FWIW, I almost never tip at coffee shops. If the girl at the counter is especially cute I might. If I paid cash, I always leave my change on the countertop for the next person (same with fast food before I gave it up and grocery stores and stuff). Funny thing, yesterday at the coffee shop right outside Nordstrom I put my change on the counter (some really rando amount like $.72 or something) and walked over to pick up my drip. Like 15 seconds later as I was walking away to join some friends who already had a table, the 30'ish year old lady who was behind me in line yells at me in excitement to tell me I left her the exact change she needed. She seemed really over-excited by it which made me smile.

GoT

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I remember a long time ago in a thread talking about how I throw my pennies away because I dont want them, and you mentioned how you leave your change on the counter all the time. Since then i've been doing that a lot.

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The drive thru by Hollywood Park used to have one, but I'm guessing it got stolen too many times.

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I always toss pennies and nickels (dimes sometimes, it depends) in the tip cups because I never spend them anyway, and that's better than them ending up on the floor or between the couch cushions or in the trash or wherever.

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Either way tho I think it is incredibly lame that the people who work at places like starbucks and subway feel they are entitled to tips, yet their job is nothing like any of the other proffesions that earn tips, and is pretty much exactly like the guy working the fryer at Mcdonalds who would never dream of getting tipped.

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If somebody, even if it's only one customer, might want to leave a tip for me, should I not accept it? It seems illogical for the employees not to have a tip cup available as long as the company allows it. That the cup is out there doesn't necessarily mean the employees feel any sort of "entitlement" to tips at all, although I would suspect some mentality of entitlement would form over time in the minds of some employees in some industries.

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I remember a long time ago in a thread talking about how I throw my pennies away because I dont want them, and you mentioned how you leave your change on the counter all the time. Since then i've been doing that a lot.

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Woot!

GoT

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If somebody, even if it's only one customer, might want to leave a tip for me, should I not accept it? It seems illogical for the employees not to have a tip cup available as long as the company allows it.

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yeah, I suppose, but I think that falls into the "when will it end??" point of my post. How long before there is a tip cup at the counter of blockbusters, or in front of the cashier at WAL-mart? At some point you have to admit it becomes completely absurd, for me that point is a drive thru window at a menial job

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That the cup is out there doesn't necessarily mean the employees feel any sort of "entitlement" to tips at all, although I would suspect some mentality of entitlement would form over time in the minds of some employees in some industries.

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I dunno, I think when you are perching a plastic cup on a 2" ledge outside a drive thru window, which is lets be honest, a completely RETARDED location in terms of security, it comes off as you feeling entilted to it.

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If the girl at the counter is especially cute I might.

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hi didnt tip.

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Maybe this is common (god I hope not) and I just never knew it cuz I dont go to Starbucks. But I went to starbucks tonight to get hot chocolate for the GF, and there was a [censored] tip cup sitting on the ledge at the drive thru. Now to be clear, it wasnt the McDonalds, spare change for the needy type bin. It was a plastic cup with the word "Tips" written on it.

Even worse, it was actually full of money. I prayed to baby jesus that someone would drive off with it

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Why do you have a problem with starbucks employees getting tips? Do you feel they are overpayed?

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being a server myself, I don't tip at starbucks, dunkin donuts, etc., because they don't SERVE me the way I do throughout an entire dining experience. Have I felt guilty at times about it? Yes, but I do a lot more [censored] than they do over the course of an hour or two than I should feel guilty about giving them .50-1.00

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hi didnt tip.

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No, Mr. Pink was the one that didn't tip. Thanks for playing, maybe next time.

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The really disturbing thing is your girlfriend sending you down to starbucks in the middle of the night so she can have an overpriced hot chocolate.

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I think they are much more analogous to a bartender than the fryer cook.

FWIW I rarely tip if I am getting coffee or hot chocolate, but will tip if the drink requies some skill or effort.

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There's drive thru starbucks?

WTF? How did I miss this? Not that I drink starbucks anyway.

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We have them all over ABQ. On every damned corner, and there's more to come I think.

Just tip your change, you cheap bastards.

ScottieK

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I always tip the change at donut/coffee shops whether I am inside or doing the drive-thru. We're talking about 25c here. What's the big deal?

I have never seen a tip cup at a drive-thru though.

Also a lot of drive-thru attendants are kind of shocked when I give them back the change. Might not be too common.

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I always toss pennies and nickels (dimes sometimes, it depends) in the tip cups because I never spend them anyway, and that's better than them ending up on the floor or between the couch cushions or in the trash or wherever.

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People actually throw money into the trash?

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The really disturbing thing is your girlfriend sending you down to starbucks in the middle of the night so she can have an overpriced hot chocolate.

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this is totally unecessary. The family guy "she'll pretty much have to" is far funnier, and better done.

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I stopped leaving change in the tip cups after it hit me that these semi-braindead employees rarely, if ever, will say "Thank You" afterwards.

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If somebody, even if it's only one customer, might want to leave a tip for me, should I not accept it?



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Agreed. My father once told me that there's a simple question you can ask yourself if you're the employee in a situation like this where you have a close situation, and you're deciding whether to leave the tip jar out or not:

"Would I rather the money were in my pocket or somebody else's?"

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If somebody, even if it's only one customer, might want to leave a tip for me, should I not accept it?



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Agreed. My father once told me that there's a simple question you can ask yourself if you're the employee in a situation like this where you have a close situation, and you're deciding whether to leave the tip jar out or not:

"Would I rather the money were in my pocket or somebody else's?"

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This is pathetic. It's like saying, "I'm, going to be standing around in this park anyway. I might as well put a tin cup out and panhandle."

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I went to Chipotle a couple days ago. They had a tip jar as well. I'm not tipping in a freakin' cafeteria style restaurant.

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If I have to get up and get my food, I'm not tipping. Tipping is for:

Tattoos/Piercings
Waiters/Waitresess
Pizza Guys/Chinese Delivery

and that's it. Starbucks is so overpriced as it is, I wouldn't give them another dime. (Exception: I know someone working and they give me free coffee, then I tip)

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Congratulations. You have discovered the fact that panhandlers make more money than they would if they didn't panhandle.

Now the only question is hourly rate.

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Tipping at Starbucks is not like tipping a bartender because at Starbucks there is an exact way they have to make your drink. Whereas a bartender might poor a little extra alcohol in your mixed drink, a barista is not going to hook up any extra espresso or probably even think that you would want any extra. Starbucks is not freehand drink making, they go to school and learn exact proportions for uniformity of product. I recommend stealing the tip jar and giving it to one of the people who ring the bells at storefronts. I would never tip a coffee maker, same as I don't tip a bartender for opening a beer. A tip is money for service above and beyond, and all too often it's expected. I have ZERO problem not tipping, and I have worked in the service industry before.

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Congratulations. You have discovered the fact that panhandlers make more money than they would if they didn't panhandle.

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You just made my point. Of course they make money at it, but it's still pathetic, just like putting the stupid styrofoam cup out on the counter at Starbucks. There are a lot of things one can do for money if he's really pathetic. For instance, I'll give you $20 to eat some dog poo. You'll have money, but you'll also still be pathetic.

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You just made my point. Of course they make money at it, but it's still pathetic, just like putting the stupid styrofoam cup out on the counter at Starbucks. There are a lot of things one can do for money if he's really pathetic. For instance, I'll give you $20 to eat some dog poo. You'll have money, but you'll also still be pathetic.

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I said "if it's a close situation". Is eating dog poo a close situation? Panhandling might be if the money means something to you. I'm sure that the money in the tip jar means something to the workers. Enough that they probably wouldn't sweat a thread or two in OOT.

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I said "if it's a close situation". Is eating dog poo a close situation? Panhandling might be if the money means something to you. I'm sure that the money in the tip jar means something to the workers. Enough that they probably wouldn't sweat a thread or two in OOT.

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Anything so pathetic as begging inappropriately for money (ie. putting a cup on a Starbucks counter) is not close.

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Anything so pathetic as begging inappropriately for money (ie. putting a cup on a Starbucks counter) is not close.

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You must have either a lot of money or a very low tolerance for people looking down on you.

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This is a friendly reminder to always tip generously to your food delivery couriers.

That is all

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You must have either a lot of money or a very low tolerance for people looking down on you.

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Not really. I just have a sense of what is an appropriate way to earn a living versus begging. As I said, doing this is pretty much the same thing as panhandling, which I also don't do. Not because I care what strangers think of me for doing it, but because I care what I would think of me for doing it.

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Where do we stand on tipping caterers?

A) If you hired them?
B) If you're a guest, but the waiter goes out of his way to serve you?

Just curious,
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