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So here's the scenario, we're playing $3-$6 limit, full ring of 10 players. We drag a pot of $60. Now...

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Also, do you tip a little better to a dealer who is fast and has some personality?

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Who is putting "I don't tip"? And what are your reasons other than being cheap as hell?

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Who is putting "I don't tip"? And what are your reasons other than being cheap as hell?

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a) Live rake is ridiculously high compared at small stakes.
b) In addition to rake, many places take $1 every damn pot regardless of pot size for some lame jackpot.
c) I tip a couple bucks if I'm up when I leave the table.

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Who is putting "I don't tip"? And what are your reasons other than being cheap as hell?

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a) Live rake is ridiculously high compared at small stakes.
b) In addition to rake, many places take $1 every damn pot regardless of pot size for some lame jackpot.
c) I tip a couple bucks if I'm up when I leave the table.

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So I worked in a restaurant in DC this summer on the Waterfront for some cash. But:

a.) The price for food is a little steep, hey this is DC Waterfront, and you are also paying for location.

b.) The tax on food in DC is 10%, comparatively high to many places.

c.) Some people left bad tips reasoning a & b makes it correct.

I think the fault in their argument is that servers mainly get paid in tips. We don't set the prices, we have nothing to do with the tax. If you come to a casino, oops I mean restaurant, you agree to pay their high prices and rakes, I mean taxes. You still have someone working for you whose main part of pay comes through tips.

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I will tip $1 everytime at 3/6 for a pot of this size, no more and no less.

When the pot gets above 20BBs, then I start to consider tipping more than $1.

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If you come to a casino, oops I mean restaurant, you agree to pay their high prices and rakes, I mean taxes. You still have someone working for you whose main part of pay comes through tips.

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I go out to dinner, in large part, for the service. I tip for that service.

I don't play poker for the service.

I fully sympathize with the fact the dealers make a decent chunk of their wages through tips. However, I'm not going to a casino to enjoy their service, I'm going to win money from fish. If I simply want to pay for entertainment, I have other choices I'd rather investigate.

I do go to a restaurant to enjoy the service and I tip for that service.

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I tip $1 on every pot in excess of say 3 big bets. Below that, nothing.

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That still doesn't alter the fact that tipping is 100% voluntary. The big tippers more than make up for the non tippers.

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I tip by discretion. If the dealer is average, I tip when I make a decent pot. If the dealer is awesome (very few experiences with that!), they get $2 for large pots, $1 for mediocre pots, and $2-$3 when they rotate away. Crappy dealers get $1 on huge pots. Nothing worse than a bitchy dealer.

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I don't tip someone for doing the job they are paid to do, paying them is thier employers responsability not mine!

I do however tip people who go the extra mile for me, recent examples being a cab driver that helped my wife carry several heavy shopping bags into the house, and a waitress who took the time to find some crayons and paper to keep my kids quiet/amused while waiting for our meal

Mat

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That still doesn't alter the fact that tipping is 100% voluntary.

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Society forces you to tip, its not voluntary.

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True. I am considered an extremely generous person (but not the best player in a home game!), but I really don't 100% agree with tipping dealers after rake. But I do, because I care, to some degree, what people think. And I like to set an example. Not that it changes the cards I get, but i

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As long as tipping is optional I despise the sanctimonious attitude the big and/or consistent tippers have towards the small/inconsistent tippers.

Maybe someone doesn't tip because they really need the money? Do you people drive to Wal Mart and call the people who shop their cheap-skates and tight-wads, etc.

Just because you have the money to tip or it isn't that valuable to you don't rag on those who the money IS a big deal.

And even IF someone decides not to tip at all, IT IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. AS LONG AS IT IS OPTIONAL WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THE "PROPER" WAY TO ACT.

Oh and you tip the waiter at the end of the meal, you don't tip him every single time he stops by your table.

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If you don't want the service, deal the cards yourself. You are going to a casino not just for the fish, but for the dealer so don't be a total douche and tip when you win a big pot. Otherwise, there's plenty of fish online.

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This would be a fantastic question for the
B&M forum. It really hasn't been addressed
there yet. Good post!

-ZEN

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I don't tip someone for doing the job they are paid to do, paying them is thier employers responsability not mine!

I do however tip people who go the extra mile for me, recent examples being a cab driver that helped my wife carry several heavy shopping bags into the house, and a waitress who took the time to find some crayons and paper to keep my kids quiet/amused while waiting for our meal

Mat

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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You know what I hate, the goodie types who when you don't tip a pot that you probably should, or is a borderline decision ("discretion" has been mentioned at least once in this thread), they tip the dealer for you, in a pot they didn't win, just to try and make you feel bad.

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Oh and you tip the waiter at the end of the meal, you don't tip him every single time he stops by your table.

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Hmmm. Never thought of it that way before.

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Hmm let's see, they do a job that most third world slave wage employees wish they could get, and with the emergence of globalism, I think it's only fair to include them in a comparison of occupations/wages. A job that's considerably easier than the vast majority of construction jobs, whether skilled or unskilled. A job with considerably less weighty physical safety ramifications than say a mistake made by a crane operator. Their job involves virtually no physical exertion. What about a keen creative mind and great artistic ability such as is necessary for success as an artist, advertising planner, clothing or interior designer? Negatory, batman. What about being a greatly humanitarian occupation such as nurses, nursing assitants and doctor's assistants? If you count helping to get the attention of the barmaid quicker, sure! Mathematical genius? Yeah, it's a real brain fryer to follow how many bets of which size come out on each round and then take 5 or 10% for the rake up to a certain maximum. Analytical prowess? Uhh yeah, it's super tough to tell what the players' hands are when they show you their pocket cards.

What do they do, if they're considered good? They're able to do a lot of small talk/bullshitting (mostly with the boisterous drunks) and they shuffle/deal the cards quickly -- an ability most any non-totalfucktard can develop with a few days to a few weeks of moderately intense practice. Sorry, but I think them making what they can make from wages plus tips based upon even just $.50 per pot for an average number of dealt hands per hour is absurd, no matter what angle you look at it from. As has been mentioned by others, players tipping a buck or so at the end of a short session or a few at the end of a long session would probably make the most sense. Why do I tip $1 for normal pots, $.50 for unusually small pots, and occasionally $2 (depending on how much longer I intend for my session to last) for unusually large pots then? Only because that is the commonly accepted practice on the part of the recreational players I play against with the intention of winning money from, and I wish to avoid exuding an unusually serious, money-hungry image to them (although that itself is a chore with even a modicum of tight pre-flop play versus the "never say fold!" till the flop horseshit).

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I tip $1 per pot I win regardless of the size. If I'm playing 3-1 blinds in a 3-6 game and I'm in the BB and everone folds to me I still tip the dealer $1. If I make a rare hand like quads, straight flush, etc I'll tip $2-?.

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Heres how it works for me... I'll tip a deal 1 dollar for every pot I take unless it is basically just the blinds... Once they give me a reason to tip more or less I will... Last night for example, I got a very bitchy female dealer who was constantly badmouthing the casino and the floor for taking 20% of her tips... When I tipped her after my first hand she did not thank me, and she also will never get another tip from me...

The very next dealer who sat down was awesome. Fastest dealer I have ever had, and for the three rotations that I had him, he didn't flip a card, misdeal, tell anyone the wrong thing a single time. He was also an extremely nice guy and talked to me about everything from school to sports in the 1.5 hours he dealt for me. After the second rotation, I gave him ten dollars for being so good, and a genuinely nice guy.

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I don't tip. My casino is a 4 dollar drop at full ring if there is a flop. Thats huge. Figure I win 100 pots a month and we are talking about 2 months rent per year. Tipping is for those who are there having fun, I am their supporting myself and I need that 1200 a year to do it. Sorry guys.

To those who tip well, I support you. When I start playing 20/40 Ill throw a few more dollars out there.

At restaurants I often tip 25%. A server has made it their responsibility to insure I have an enjoyable meal. If they execute that properly they have earned my gratitude.

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That still doesn't alter the fact that tipping is 100% voluntary.

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Society forces you to tip, its not voluntary.

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No, I tip dealers, waiters, and bartenders because I recognize the reality of the job situation. I also appreciate service industry personnel who do a good job.

I think most people who know me personally would get a good laugh at anyone who thought I caved to pressure from "society" on anything.