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mtdoak 10-24-2005 12:58 AM

Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
I'm in the CO with AT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Blinds are 300/600, i'm about average with 7k. Short stack in MP pushes for 1500, guy next to him cold calls, I cold call, blinds both fold.

Flop comes J98 with two spades. Cold caller leads with 2000. My move? I'm a slight favorite to anything but a set or a made straight or two pair.

A_Junglen 10-24-2005 01:00 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
Well, I would've folded without thinking preflop.

Your only move postflop is allin.

mtdoak 10-24-2005 01:03 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
Getting 2.5-1 preflop with position you muck ATs? If the short stack has somethink like 88 and the cold caller has something as good as KK, i'm still getting the right price for less than 25% of my chips. Even if he has AK getting 2.5-1 the call is right. Only hand its not the right call against is AA

Roman 10-24-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
aye you could be dominated and will only see 3 cards most likely. Also sometimes, u are squashed (like AK and JJ).

Postflop: push obv

LearnedfromTV 10-24-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
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aye you could be dominated and will only see 3 cards most likely. Also sometimes, u are squashed (like AK and JJ).

Postflop: push obv

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This is horrible... the original pusher had 2,5 x BB, no way he's on that tight a range. Caller doesn't have to mean much. I would have pushed over the top preflop. Depending on the read of the caller- certain kinds of players would only be calling with monsters here. But most of the time push preflop, get it heads up w/ short stack. On the flop, uh, push twice if they let you.

ansky451 10-24-2005 01:21 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
Preflop I push or fold.

Flop, is a trivially easy push.

cferejohn 10-24-2005 02:33 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
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I'm in the CO with AT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Blinds are 300/600, i'm about average with 7k. Short stack in MP pushes for 1500, guy next to him cold calls, I cold call, blinds both fold.

Flop comes J98 with two spades. Cold caller leads with 2000. My move? I'm a slight favorite to anything but a set or a made straight or two pair.

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You're a favorite now, but if you call and miss, you wont be anymore. Ergo, put the chips in now when you know you are a favorite. Bear in mind that any card that makes your hand is going to be a fairly scary looking card to villan, so you may not be able to get value out of the hand. If he folds, great, if he doesn't, you are almost certainly a favorite.

ZBTHorton 10-24-2005 02:34 AM

Re: Great flop for me....whats my line?
 
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Preflop I push or fold.

Flop, is a trivially easy push.

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