A great raise based on dead cards.
 

3rd street is debatable on whether I should cap or not, the table is extremely weak...

6th street is a really great raise which may have saved me the whole pot.. Its based on not only the cards showing on board but previously folded 8 and 3 which I somehow remembered.

I felt REALLY good after making this play and thought I'd share it with you guys.

7 Card Stud High ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes___calls

4th Street - (13.20 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (8.60 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (12.60 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

River - (16.60 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks

Total pot: (16.60 BB)

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

nice move!

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

I'd bet the river too. Your board is such that you couldn't possibly beat a straight on 6th, so he definitely would have reraised you there if he did have the unlikely straight. Meanwhile he probably either started with a pair or paired somewhere along the way ot have made it this far, so he could easily have 2 pair and decide to pay you off. If you get raised you may have to fold, but I think overall you will gain some value here.

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

Wow that is good.

Unless I'm mistaken he only had 3 outs left, two 8's and one 3 ... very short odds to catch on the river and I'm guessing his hole cards were split 5's with an A kicker? (wild guess, he could have had anything I know) [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

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and I'm guessing his hole cards were split 5's with an A kicker? (wild guess, he could have had anything I know) [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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SDM,

Remember, when you "put people on a hand", you put them on a range of hands.. Not usually one thing in particular.

There are of course exceptions, and sometimes it seems really obvious a person has a four flush from the way a hand has played out, etc..

I usually find myself putting people on a bluff. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

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and I'm guessing his hole cards were split 5's with an A kicker? (wild guess, he could have had anything I know) [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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SDM,

Remember, when you "put people on a hand", you put them on a range of hands.. Not usually one thing in particular.

There are of course exceptions, and sometimes it seems really obvious a person has a four flush from the way a hand has played out, etc..

I usually find myself putting people on a bluff. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Its something I'll try to work on, but given the pace of the game I find myself thinking only about 2 hands for my opponent, and one is always rolled up. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

He actually showed down 2 clubs in the hole.. Had more outs than I thought.

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

I love the raise on 6th. I probably would have missed it even 2-tabling.

Why didn’t you bet out on 4th though?

Re: A great raise based on dead cards.
 

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Why didn’t you bet out on 4th though?

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Because I'm weak tight..... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]