QJo out of the BB
 

First few hands at the table, no reads on anyone.

Is preflop call alright out of BB?
Should I donk the turn? How about folding when its two back to me?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

Thanks.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

Im not calling this preflop. This should be a fold imo.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

Flop call is fine getting 7.5 to 1. Donking the turn isn't horrible, but fold when it's two back.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

Is there a reason not to bet out on the flop with two overcards and the OESD? This hand plays out differently if you do.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

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Is there a reason not to bet out on the flop with two overcards and the OESD? This hand plays out differently if you do.

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The reason= The pre flop raiser is immediately to your left.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

I realize that, but I think betting out here gives us more information than the way it was played out.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

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Is there a reason not to bet out on the flop with two overcards and the OESD? This hand plays out differently if you do.

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Our OESD kindof sucks since the hearts are dirty, but if we can trap the field we'll know precisely how much value will be in a raise. If the PFR bets and no one calls then our betting out wouldn't have been for value; if they all call...maybe.

Also, I ain't calling this preflop, particularly against an early raiser.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

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I realize that, but I think betting out here gives us more information than the way it was played out.

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With this hand we don't want information--we either want value or a cheap turn card.

Re: QJo out of the BB
 

Would it make sense to raise the flop when it comes back to us? We have two overcards, a gutshot and could use a K or A(non heart) to bet out on the turn. We could eliminate the two behind us and get us heads up w/ Button.