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durron597 11-14-2005 09:30 PM

($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
Tightish blinds. BB is poster Hyperion. I've been raping his blinds (edit2: read, last 2 orbits where it was folded to me) mostly because that's when I've had pushable hands. SB is good but on the tight side for a big stack, at least preflop.

Please reply to the poll before checking SnGPT - I certainly didn't have time during the hand.

Edit: note "by raping his blinds" I mean I'm pushing about once / orbit, give or take. I only pushed once in the last ten hands prior.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP (t3225)
Hero (t2170)
SB (t5130)
BB (t1935)
UTG (t1040)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ???

handsome 11-14-2005 09:31 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
I voted push.

11-14-2005 10:03 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
Easy push. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I got owned today.

durron597 11-14-2005 10:06 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
[ QUOTE ]
Easy push. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I got owned today.

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I'm glad at least you agree with me. BTW, the first time I pushed on you I had QdJd, the second time KJo.

What's your call range there if I may ask?

11-14-2005 10:11 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
So -EV saying this, but I'm prolly moving back to PP soon once I finally organise ... stuff.

I'ld be calling a tad looser than normal, so maybe A5o,A2s,KTo+,44+

*Then checks SNGPT to see how bad my range is*

11-14-2005 10:16 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
Crap ... I'm too tight. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Have to learn how to spite call more often I guess. Given my [censored] tight calling range it's a push, but it's much closer than I thought.

BTW Everytime you pushed I had junk so yeah, no decision for me.

durron597 11-14-2005 10:22 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
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Crap ... I'm too tight. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Have to learn how to spite call more often I guess. Given my [censored] tight calling range it's a push, but it's much closer than I thought.

BTW Everytime you pushed I had junk so yeah, no decision for me.

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These stack sizes are borderline for me pushing on you with crap here. And I'm not pushing 32o, 97o is just the very bottom of my range. Something like top 65%. 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2+,J3o+,J2s+,T6o+,T3s+,97o+,95s+,86s+ ,76s is top 65% and that's about right, I might fold some of the worse suited tens and T6o.

11-14-2005 10:25 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
I voted fold before checking, but it looks like it's really close and a matter of ranges once I plugged it into SNGPT. Assuming BB knows you, he probably ought to be calling a reasonably wide range, at least top 20-25%. That alone won't make it a fold, but BB ought to be calling a fairly similar range, and even if he's as tight as 15% it's only about break-even.

I guess it all depends on how likely you think it is big stack will finally realize how many chips he has. I'm guessing he's eventually going to decide he's had enough of you stealing the blinds he wants to take...

durron597 11-14-2005 10:29 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
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I'm guessing he's eventually going to decide he's had enough of you stealing the blinds he wants to take...

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I really was only stealing once per orbit and I think I missed the previous orbit. It just happened to be Hyperion's blind every time is all.

pineapple888 11-14-2005 10:33 PM

Re: ($27) PUSH or FOLD challenge
 
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I guess it all depends on how likely you think it is big stack will finally realize how many chips he has. I'm guessing he's eventually going to decide he's had enough of you stealing the blinds he wants to take...

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Hey, somebody remembered the SB has a ton of chips! That's why I voted "fold".


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