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Barry 06-15-2005 07:53 AM

JJ, K on the flop. Is a raise less scary than a call?
 
Villian in this hand is OK, perhaps just a tad loose compared to a typical TAG (22/14/2.1).

Party 30/60, we're 9 handed and I have J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG+1 and raise, Villian 3-bets right behind me, folded to me, I call. Heads up.

Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, villian raises, I call.

Turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

check, check.

River is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, villian calls.

vulture 06-15-2005 08:15 AM

Re: JJ, K on the flop. Is a raise less scary than a call?
 
I would have played it exactly the same.

La Brujita 06-15-2005 08:48 AM

Re: JJ, K on the flop. Is a raise less scary than a call?
 
I think you played it well. I often cap preflop against this aggressive of an opponent. You have a solid hand that rates to be good/pretty close to good against his 3-betting hands and might slow him down from running you over.

The likelihood of your hand being good also goes up significantly if no ace flops and you can sometimes take it away with your four bet if an ace flops and he has KK-TT.

His numbers seem a tad bit loose and laggy to me.

Buckshot 06-15-2005 09:34 AM

Re: JJ, K on the flop. Is a raise less scary than a call?
 
I think the only question vs a laggy player is whether or not to cap preflop but it's marginal IMO.

Also, IMO, the villian doesn't have the following hands, AA, AK, QQ, KQ, or JJ. I rule out JJ because you have the other Jacks, but he could. Had he held QQ he would bet the turn and check the river if you called. Versus a typical opponent I would bet the turn and the river had I not gotten raised (if I had the QQ). He's probably got tens or nines or AQ (prob not AQ since he called the river). The lag played it like cheap showdown poker so he prob has some middling pair.

FWIW, I would've played it just like you did.

~stephen


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