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stu55 06-17-2005 01:48 AM

Save my poker life and hurry!
 
Ok, well, I am in a bit of a rout here. Started with $80 and was going to grind for a bit to start hitting up the 11s and 22s and play poker for the summer, hoping to make some money. I am also a pretty tight player and dont take too many risks. But it seems like I am about to go broke, and that is bad.

I have $12 left on my account and $12 in rake back to get, but for some reason I can't place in the money and it has killed whatever small amount of bankroll I had. Of the 58 tables I have hit up I have moneied in 16 of them. It seems no matter what I do, ppl will draw out on me, no matter how I push or bet. My AA got cracked today by 28s, and no matter how many times I want them to call, it just seems I am on the short end...

Is there anything I can do, I have 4 tables worth at the 6s then I am done, I really need the help and any advice would be good.

Myst 06-17-2005 01:52 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
If you want to treat this game seriously, you gotta either play with more money, or move down in limits.

Freudian 06-17-2005 01:55 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
I don't know what advice you can get that will make your hands hold up for the next four SnGs.

Hope you win your coinflips.

lastchance 06-17-2005 01:55 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
List of concepts you need to understand to beat the $11's for a moderate ROI:
L1-L3:
Playing pairs for Set Value
Playing TPTK + Overpairs for profit
Check-raising
Slowplaying (when to do it)
Positional concerns preflop (insanely important)
Never laydown QQ
L4-ITM:
Blind Stealing:
Position
# of active players left
How good your hand actually is (88 = AK or K9s)
10x BB rule: when you have 10x BB or less, push all-in
ICM
Stack Size
Raising vs Calling
Luckboxing (sucking out on others)
Range of opponent's hands (very, very important)
Opponent's stack sizes (unimportant compared to the others because of opponent's play) (understand the last sentence, and you'll beat the bubble)
Stabbing the flop vs Pushing preflop
Limping
ITM-HU:
Aggressiveness
Playing opponents (always important, but essential here)
Position (this is really, really important HU)

General SNG concepts:
Variance

Remember, don't focus on your suckouts. Focus on getting blinded down to nil or doing stupid things with decent stacks that allowed you to lose.

Is being called by a loose big stack with A8s good on the bubble?
Is it ok to limp KJs UTG in L1? Ok in CO in front of limpers in L1?
Do you laydown AA to a board with a three-flush?
Do you open-fold any hand in the SB Heads-Up?

Al P 06-17-2005 02:18 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
Looks like you'll be mowing lawns again this summer.

ZebraAss 06-17-2005 02:25 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
Good Luck bro...

Jonathan 06-17-2005 05:50 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Looks like you'll be mowing lawns again this summer.

[/ QUOTE ]

And there is absoulutely nothing wrong with that!
Much more healthy for you physically and emotionally
that sitting in front of a computer screen all day!

Suerte,
Jonathan

Jonathan 06-17-2005 06:02 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
Stu,

I know its painful for you....so you probably missed the irony
your post and its title.

With an $80 bankroll your poker life is the $.01/$.02 limit
tables. You are well capitalized to play at those stakes,
and at those tables you can enjoy and learn the game.

With $80, you have no life at the $6 sit and gos. You are
way undercapitalized for that level...that is not where
your poker life is.

Suerte,
Jonathan

byronkincaid 06-17-2005 06:06 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
Get a credit card.

Sykes 06-17-2005 06:16 AM

Re: Save my poker life and hurry!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ok, well, I am in a bit of a rout here. Started with $80 and was going to grind for a bit to start hitting up the 11s and 22s and play poker for the summer, hoping to make some money. I am also a pretty tight player and dont take too many risks. But it seems like I am about to go broke, and that is bad.

I have $12 left on my account and $12 in rake back to get, but for some reason I can't place in the money and it has killed whatever small amount of bankroll I had. Of the 58 tables I have hit up I have moneied in 16 of them. It seems no matter what I do, ppl will draw out on me, no matter how I push or bet. My AA got cracked today by 28s, and no matter how many times I want them to call, it just seems I am on the short end...

Is there anything I can do, I have 4 tables worth at the 6s then I am done, I really need the help and any advice would be good.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sell more stuff and getting a bigger roll. Dropping 7 buy-ins at the 11's is nothing. Especially if you're only placing in the money 27.5% of the time, which is horrible.)

A winning player can drop 7 buy-ins EASILY.

I have about 30 buy-ins at party to play the $11's and I really don't want to start until I have enough for 50 buy-ins to minimize the risk of ruin to near 0.

Your risk of ruin must be higher than 50%.


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