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12-09-2005 01:18 PM

stud high
 
7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter (use internet explorer))

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___brings-in ___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___calls ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___raises
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___folds

4th Street - (3.50 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___bets

5th Street - (2.75 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___bets

6th Street - (4.75 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___raises
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___bets ___????

Roland 12-09-2005 01:31 PM

Re: stud high
 
I think you should check-call 6th and 7th.

Since you bet, you should probably fold. I call him down though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mac 12-09-2005 01:37 PM

Re: stud high
 
for me, this is 100% based on my knowledge of villain.

if no reads, then..... it depends what kind of mood in. I'll probably call it down but feel sick doing so.

- Mac

MRBAA 12-09-2005 01:47 PM

Re: stud high
 
More likely a flush than trips, since a six was out on third and only 2 diamonds. Looks like he hit. But you're getting 8-1 to call the raise on 6th and you have 3 cards to fill out of 36 unseen, so you're 12-1 dog. So the odds don't quite make it, even saying you'll win two best on river when you fill. So, how likely is it he has the flush (or trips)? If it's 100%, you'd fold. If it's 50%, you'd call. After all, you can beat any two pair he has (even including the other two aces). Given the play so far, it seems pretty likely he's got it...but this is a really tough laydown.

12-09-2005 02:19 PM

Re: stud high
 
Thanks for the comments, all. Very helpful. I like Roland's line of check/calling 6th and 7th.

I folded 6th. I'm trying to disipline myself to fold on later streets if I think I'm beat. It didn't help that he claimed to have nines up, but I tell myself he was just messing with my head. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Roland 12-09-2005 02:28 PM

Re: stud high
 
If he made a remark like that he’s probably also capable of making a play like that. So watch out.

Spladle Master 12-09-2005 06:28 PM

Re: stud high
 
Call down.

benwood 12-10-2005 02:33 AM

Re: stud high
 
There is a chance that he could be raising eith 2 pairs+a four-flush or some similar hand.
Suppose,in a simplified example,you called his hand down when you didn't hit,& when you did fill up & check-raised he called you down.
If your hand were never good without filling up,you would lose a little less than 1 bet per hand. But if your hand were good 1 time out of 10 without improving,you would be a slight winner.
On average,the EV is so close to zero that I would rather see his hand than invite other players in the game to bluff me out in the future by throwing the hand away.

TheSalche 12-10-2005 02:41 AM

Re: stud high
 
I think you have to call down here ... you have 3 outs, with 36 cards left in the deck, 12 to 1 shot, for about 8 to 1 odds. With the implied odds of getting in a check raise (two more bets) out of him if you fill up, plus the off chance he is bluffing here, I think its worth a call, especially if you factor in the idea that you've gained some knowledge about your opponent. Don't forget he may put you on raising with a flush draw, or he may have a pair in the hole too, and hope that his kings/queens/jacks up are good.


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