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 sullydavid 08-18-2005 12:21 PM

Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

I am wondering if a good chart is out there that has the majority of common situations and the percentatge advantage each has. I am sure it has to exist, but the search terms I have been using have been failing.

What I am looking for is a list with something like the following:
pair vs over pair - win/loss %
pair vs 2 over cards - win/loss %
pair vs 1 over card - win/loss %
pair vs 2 under cards - win/loss %
2 overs vs 2 unders - win/loss %
1 over and 1 under vs 2 middle cards (A2 vs Q8) - win/loss %
not even sure what to call this one but (AJ vs KT) - win/loss %

I know that not all situations can be covered, but I think you can see what I am looking for. I don't mind doing the leg work and figuring it out, but I assume this has to exist somewhere already.

If anyone has a link to this type of info I would appreciate it.

 mosdef 08-18-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

i don't know of any charts that have been compiled, but you can go to twodimes.net to test all sorts of examples and make your own charts as you like.

regards

 LetYouDown 08-18-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

PokerStove...should be all you need. Twodimes.net would be way too laborious for this task.

 Mike Haven 08-20-2005 06:17 AM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

Download this small Poker programme. It's as good as if not better than any of the online programmes.

You'll love it.

 08-21-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

From page 126 of HoHE (vol 1), I'm sure they exist elsewhere as well... (all approximate)

pair vs over pair - 4.5-1
pair vs 2 over cards - 11-9
pair vs 1 over card - 5-2
pair vs 2 under cards - 5-1
2 overs vs 2 unders - 5-3

 08-21-2005 03:29 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

[ QUOTE ]
pair vs over pair - 4.5-1

[/ QUOTE ]That should be 1-4.5.

 08-21-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

What lame responses. Here is the correct answer (scroll down).

 sullydavid 09-01-2005 08:19 AM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks OneLiner.

 09-01-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Various Head to Head Preflop Hands Chart

I have a list of all 44499 representantive possible pre-flop situations, if you want it pm me with your e-mail address. A modern computer can generate it in a few hours.

(Althought there are only 169 distinct preflop hands (which naively suggests 14,365 representative possibilities) suit considerations complicate things somewhat -- the odds for As Ah vs. Kh Qh are slightly different than those for As Ah vs Kd Qd.)

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