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shant 12-16-2005 06:59 PM

10/20 AQo Checkup
 
UTG is 18.9/15.8/2 after 551 hands.
BB is 29.3/8.5/0.82 after 485 hands.


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Obviously the Q is a nice river card, but what would my river plan be for other cards?

poker1O1 12-16-2005 07:09 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
well, you've represented a small pair or a flush draw, so I would check/fold this river UI after he's called the turn

Victor 12-16-2005 08:08 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
[ QUOTE ]
well, you've represented a small pair or a flush draw, so I would check/fold this river UI after he's called the turn

[/ QUOTE ]

wha?????

Victor 12-16-2005 08:14 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
i say bet the river for value if it blanks. you are getting raised on flop or turn if he has a pair. so his range is a10-ak. thin, but seemingly apparent, value bet.

otherwise your river play doesnt make sense. if you put him on a pair then you should be cring this river.

bobbyi 12-16-2005 09:35 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
What's the point of the flop c/r? Nothing is folding on this board, you are presumably behind his range (if not, three-bet pf) and you are often getting reraised here when you are behind, costing you three bets to take a card off when you are only drawing do 3 outs (plus maybe some chop outs vs. AK).

sfer 12-16-2005 10:03 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
[ QUOTE ]

UTG is 18.9/15.8/2 after 551 hands.

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I think you must 3-bet preflop.

goofball 12-17-2005 04:27 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
I usually 3bet iwth that hand in that kind of spot but I've been leaning away from that and checkraising flops more. I think If you take the second line you're less likely to get [censored] with by someone who doesn't have a pair. He's just called called called, if you checked and he bet you'd call, since you're calling a bet one way or the other just bet it yourself.

This is the ultimate 'if i'm calling i should bet' hand because of the chance of pushing him off AK I think.

shant 12-18-2005 09:35 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
Bobbyi, I thought if I checkraised I thought he might give up on missed overcards on the turn. I guess that doesn't really matter since I probably have better overcards or have him dominated. Do you suggest check/calling him down? 3-betting preflop?

AceHigh 12-18-2005 10:41 PM

Re: 10/20 AQo Checkup
 
I don't understand why you played the hand like this.

If this guy is over aggressive, why not play it call, check/call, check/call, bet the river and win the most lose the least type of play? Check/raising the flop is only going to fold hands that you beat.


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