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12-20-2005 10:45 AM

Two hands where I ended up all in
 
Hi this is my first post here, so sorry if anything is wrong!!

These two hands I ended up all in with. I am not sure if they were played correctly or not. I am looking for advice on how more experienced players would play these hands. Thanks!

This is $2/4 NL and everyone has round about $400 stack. Both hands are against unknowns.

Hand 1:
Two limpers and I call in MP with 8s9s
Three more people including the blinds call, so 7 see the flop.
Flop is TsJsKs (Pot $28)
Checked to me and I bet $25, just the person on the button calls.
Turn Ac (Pot $78)
I bet $67, button calls.
River 8h (Pot $214)
I bet $120, button moves all in for about $200 more, I call.

I wanted to fire a value bet on the river because I figured the most likely holding is a Q. I was unsure what to do when I was raised all in here.



Hand 2:
Three limpers, I call in CO with 4h5h.
Button raises to $20, two limpers call, and i call. Four see the flop.
Flop is Js4s5c (Pot $84)
Checked to me, i check, button bets $70. All fold to me and I call.
Turn 9h (Pot $224)
I check, Button bets $200, I move all in for about $100 more, he calls.

flawless_victory 12-20-2005 10:56 AM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
hand 1, fine.
hand 2, id checkraise allin on te flop.. if the button as an overpair or AJ, he will give u money... by just calling u risk losing him if a scare card comes and possibly give him a free card to a 5outer like 88 that he prob wouldnt have paid u off with.
otherwise fine.

beset7 12-20-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
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hand 2, id checkraise allin on te flop.. if the button as an overpair or AJ, he will give u money...

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hey fv. I'm curious about this line. Don't you feel people are capable of laying down tptk type hands in that spot and we let them off a little too easy? I'm thinking about doing this more but my gripe with it has always been perceived lost value.

12-20-2005 08:09 PM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
With hand 2, I was sure he was on an overpair(most likely by far), a big ace that missed, or a big ace with the flush draw. I was planning to check raise all in on any turn card except a Jack.

I am quite an inexperienced player tho, so I am unsure if this is the best way to maximise value. I was thinking that a raise all in on the flop would fold hands like AA/KK.

snappo 12-20-2005 08:15 PM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
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hand 2, id checkraise allin on te flop.. if the button as an overpair or AJ, he will give u money...

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hey fv. I'm curious about this line. Don't you feel people are capable of laying down tptk type hands in that spot and we let them off a little too easy? I'm thinking about doing this more but my gripe with it has always been perceived lost value.

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a c/r allin here is just a little more than a pot sized raise. With both straight and flush draws on board it is important to not slowplay, and it makes it hard (incorrect?) for him to fold an overpair or TPTK if you play your draws the same way.

wdeadwyler 12-20-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
Hand 1: Looks like a donkey slowplaying the nut flush. Standard, play though, you gotta call the reraise.

Hand 2: I like flat calling the flop but I dont c/r him. He is getting odds to call with TPTK here. Id rather donkbet 3/4 pot and see what he does from there.

Gregg777 12-20-2005 10:33 PM

Re: Two hands where I ended up all in
 
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Hand 1: Looks like a donkey slowplaying the nut flush.

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If villain had the nut flush, how did he play it incorrectly?

I would have raised a little less on the end, but that's it.


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