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Olback 11-07-2005 04:38 AM

$22 on the bubble
 
Villian was tight and this was the first time he had raised in ages.

Should i fold knowing that i can steal at will?

Call and hope to see a nice flop?

Reraise?

#Game No : 2995575215
***** Hand History for Game 2995575215 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17207905 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, November 07, 02:55:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 66886 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: HotChic408 ( $1200 )
Seat 6: STaje9 ( $2900 )
Seat 9: WHO_AM_EYE ( $1250 )
Seat 1: Olback17 ( $2650 )
Trny:17207905 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback17 [ 9c 9d ]
STaje9 raises [400].
WHO_AM_EYE folds.

Olback17 ??

TheNoodleMan 11-07-2005 05:54 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
Even with his tight image there is now way you can fold to a miniraise when you are holding 99.
If he is as tight as you say, then take the cheap flop and see what happens. If you are fortunate enough to hit your set, you might be able to double through him and be in the drivers seat. If the flop comes with some broadway cards, you only gave up 200 chips and you are still in good shape.

pokergrader 11-07-2005 06:17 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
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Even with his tight image there is now way you can fold to a miniraise when you are holding 99.
If he is as tight as you say, then take the cheap flop and see what happens. If you are fortunate enough to hit your set, you might be able to double through him and be in the drivers seat. If the flop comes with some broadway cards, you only gave up 200 chips and you are still in good shape.

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11-07-2005 06:19 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
Tricky.

These are the few hands that I get owned on. If he has me beat the villian keeps making 1/4 or 1/3 pot bets I can't resist to fold and then I'm down to like 800 chips.

My edge sucks here because I never know where I'm at, I prefer to piss off the short stacks, but then again if I can win this hand and can bully all 3. Then again he is tight, prolly would call AKo if I push so yeah I think I'm gunna be a pussy and fold this.

Hendricks433 11-07-2005 07:39 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
I call and see a flop. Im not ready to commit my whole stack with 99 here.

11-07-2005 07:54 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
i call and see the flop. if any scare cards flop i prolly check fold the flop...especially becuase of ur read on him
i wouldnt commit my hole stack at any point in the hand unless i had a set or something better

tigerite 11-07-2005 08:01 AM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
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I call and see a flop. Im not ready to commit my whole stack with 99 here.

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Olback 11-07-2005 08:21 PM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
Well i folded preflop. The reasons for this were:

a) I generally suck at postflop play and as Hyperion said I would end up dumping alot of chips here.

b)If i reraised he would call with a,k or a bigger hand and i would be screwed.

But know that i think about calling and seeing what happens might have been a better play.

11-07-2005 08:45 PM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
[ QUOTE ]
i wouldnt commit my hole stack at any point in the hand unless i had a set or something better



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So you are simply playing for set value? Even if you hit your set, you are unlikely to stack him unless he has an overpair or TP, you don't have the implied odds here to simply play for set value. If the flop is all unders are you willing to go allin on this flop? If there is one over what's the plan if he min bets?

I don't think the risk/reward is really worth it here.

11-07-2005 08:56 PM

Re: $22 on the bubble
 
I'm curious: what's your plan if there are overcards on the flop? Check and fold to a bet? Bet? How much? If villian calls your bet, what do you do on the turn?

I'm not being critical of your answer, I'm just trying to better understand the thinking. This seems like it is a common enough situation (at or near the bubble, mid-pair in a blind, facing a raise from someone who has me covered) that there ought to be some sort of standard line. And, I'm trying to start recognizing recurring situations so that I can play them more routinely.


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