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Brian 08-17-2004 10:08 PM

AJs, TPTK, he shoves
 
Stars 30+3 SnG. 1 person eliminated, and blinds are 15/30. My stack is about T1250. UTG and MP (T1450) limp, and I limp in from the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Button folds, SB (T2750) completes, BB checks. 5 to the Flop, T150.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Checked to MP who bets 120. I raise it to 300. SB calls, BB and UTG fold, and MP calls. 3 to the Turn, T1020.

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, MP goes all-in. My move?

-Brian

triplc 08-17-2004 10:20 PM

Re: AJs, TPTK, he shoves
 
Any read? If he's a known nut, I want to take his chips, and I'd call. If not, I fold reluctantly. NLHE has been called a game of two pair or better, and you still have only one pair. He could have JT, 56s, who knows. Maybe he's being sneaky with AA or KK. My guess is that because you raised the flop he's counting on you calling his all-in bet and him holding a monster. Just a hunch...could be making an interesting bluff or semibluff with KQ or AT...

Play well,

CCC

tallstack 08-17-2004 11:55 PM

Re: AJs, TPTK, he shoves
 
This is a tough one, IMO. The 6 on the turn doesn't seem like it would help any hand that would have called the raise on the flop. Maybe A6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? It seems equally likely that the turn didn't really help, and he is either bluffing you or he already had the hand to beat you.

No matter what, I don't see how you can call this. You may be letting go of the best hand here, but it would be a big risk to call.

Dave S

Hal 2000 08-18-2004 12:52 AM

Re: AJs, TPTK, he shoves
 
Remember he led into five players on the flop. Unless he's a maniac, I guess he had an overpair or flopped a set. Going all-in after the turn 6, no matter what two cards he's holding, is very savvy. Tough to put him on something without a solid read. I'd wait for a better spot.

Lori 08-18-2004 01:19 AM

Re: AJs, TPTK, he shoves
 
This one depends entirely on how the whole table looks.

If it is a reasonable Stars off-peak lineup of half-decent players, I take my gamble that he has KJ QJ or some wild bluff here.
If it is a nice peak-time game loaded with nutters then I probably fold and try to double my 900 or so chips at a time more convenient to me.

Of course, if the player involved is either of the above, your play is easy.

Lori

Brian 08-18-2004 01:54 AM

Results
 
Wow, you guys play much g00ter than I do. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] I play almost exclusively ring limit hold'em, and am still having a hard time adjusting to folding strong hands like this one. I called, he had QQ, and I didn't help.

-Brian

Doubling12 08-18-2004 02:47 AM

Re: Results
 
Gotta love players like that though..."I have almost no chance to improve, and the board is draw heavy. Let's smooth-call the raise and let 2 people see the turn for free! And *then* go allin!" Brilliant!


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