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12-27-2005 02:48 AM

I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
I actually just started getting into it, after many years of being a prick about it and refusing to listen. Specifically, I have been hearing great stuff about elliot smith for at least two years, and never listened to anything by him, until about a month ago when I was in this hot girls room at my school, and I actually liked it, so she direct connected all the music he made to me, and I listened to it pretty much nonstop until a few days ago when I forced myself to download more music, such as picaresque by the decemberists. And I am now delving into modest mouse, I downloaded their discography. Any suggestions on bands to listen to? (I've listened to the new pornographers, their ok, I don't really care for Xiu Xiu, and I dislike Bright Eyes)

Macdaddy Warsaw 12-27-2005 03:01 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

Senor Cardgage 12-27-2005 03:02 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
Get Neutral Milk Hotel's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea".

TomHimself 12-27-2005 03:03 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
my brothers really big on indie and has a shitload of songs, maybe i can get him posting here more

12-27-2005 03:38 AM

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I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

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What are the most popular indie bands that people would recognize by name if there are any?

Macdaddy Warsaw 12-27-2005 03:43 AM

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It's hard to define indie anymore. Modest Mouse is the easy one, though. Now I feel more like it's about some kind of "indie cred" and it's gotten pretty stupid. The Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs have indie cred. Hell, I think Coldplay used to have indie cred before Rush of Blood.

If you want to name some older indie bands, I'd say Sonic Youth and Pavement are "indie", Pavement moreso. Sonic Youth is like..."no-core" whatever that means.

12-27-2005 03:56 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
Some previously unmentioned biggies: Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, Spoon, The Shins...

And another one that gets a special shout out because they are from my hometown: Calexico.

Senor Cardgage 12-27-2005 03:56 AM

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It's hard to define indie anymore. Modest Mouse is the easy one, though. Now I feel more like it's about some kind of "indie cred" and it's gotten pretty stupid. The Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs have indie cred. Hell, I think Coldplay used to have indie cred before Rush of Blood.

If you want to name some older indie bands, I'd say Sonic Youth and Pavement are "indie", Pavement moreso. Sonic Youth is like..."no-core" whatever that means.

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The Shins are an indie band who've gotten fairly mainstream since Garden State came out.

Macdaddy Warsaw 12-27-2005 03:57 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
Alone Again Or rocks my socks so hard.

chuddo 12-27-2005 06:02 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
ugh macdaddy, i hope you realize that it is a cover of the far far far superior love/arthur lee.

but if i was a betting man, i would say you were blissfully unawares.

Macdaddy Warsaw 12-27-2005 06:16 AM

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BLISSFULLY UNAWARES [censored]

EDIT: So yeah, I wasn't missing out on much. "Far, far, far" is a stretch, eh?

chuddo 12-27-2005 06:24 AM

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far far then. then again i liked love and that song a long time ago. and thought wes anderson used it brilliantly in 'bottle rocket'.

i think calexico is decent by the way. but when that plays, i almost always switch to arthur lee.

Emmitt2222 12-27-2005 08:38 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
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Get Neutral Milk Hotel's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea".

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OP, I did this exact thing at first and I highly suggest against it. It turned me off to indie for awhile because it is just so out there. Give it a listen to later on after you have heard more stuff.

mike l. 12-27-2005 09:17 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
try:
sufjan stevens
will oldham/bonnie prince billy
songs ohia/magnolia electric co
zumpano (pre-new pornographers and better)
turin brakes
go team are very popular around here
belle and sebastian

there's tons of good stuff out there. get on [censored] and dig in.

Eurotrash 12-27-2005 10:48 AM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.


I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.


good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

Soul Daddy 12-27-2005 11:01 AM

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It's amazing that you that you can run with this joke for so long and continue to find ways to make it amusing. Nice work.

IndieMatty 12-27-2005 11:23 AM

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It's amazing that you that you can run with this joke for so long and continue to find ways to make it amusing. Nice work.

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Slow Play Ray 12-27-2005 11:33 AM

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rooftop suicide club

Hamish McBagpipe 12-27-2005 11:39 AM

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The Listening Post on Accuradio.com is great for new stuff and you can skip the crap you don't like. Current play list includes Sufjan, My Morning Jacket, New Pornographers, Wolf Parade, Son Volt, Nickel Creek, and Coheed and Cambria, all decent. Unfortunately they also have a couple of tracks from the new McCartney and Stones album, but luckily you can just skip them. I highly recommend this channel for new but accessible stuff.

MonkeeMan 12-27-2005 12:37 PM

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I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.

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I swear I saw a Clash video, [censored] sellouts.

Does being indie mean you can never be popular???

12-27-2005 01:34 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
MTV played the video for "Rock the Casbah" in heavy rotation.

12-27-2005 02:16 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
thanks for all the replies guys. in response to some of the suggestions, I've already downloaded some Iron & Wine, I forget what it sounds like though so I'll have to listen again, and Belle & Sebastian, which I enjoy.

what do yall think of elliot smith?

kagame 12-27-2005 02:42 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
can someone explain iron and wine to me?

why death cab, postal service, AND iron and wine?

it just seems so excessive

btw ARCADE FIRE ARCADE FIRE ARCADE FIRE IS AWESOME

jason_t 12-27-2005 02:46 PM

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It's amazing that you that you can run with this joke for so long and continue to find ways to make it amusing. Nice work.

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Quinn Warren 12-27-2005 03:17 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
For starters:

1. The Shins

2. Built to Spill

3. Wilco

Then move on to:

4. Yo La Tengo

5. Super Furry Animals

6. Magnetic Fields

7. Broken Social Scene

Finally, attempt:

8. Will Oldham (Bonnie Prince Billy)

9. Les Savy Fav

10. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah

11. Wolf Parade

Honorable metion to a fantastic indie pop band from the early 80's:

The Dbs. Their album-Stands for Decibles

CallMeIshmael 12-27-2005 03:47 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
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I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.


I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.


good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

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OMG are you on lately.

ESP the part in gold... genius, pure genius!!

CallMeIshmael 12-27-2005 03:51 PM

Re: I had no idea there was such an indie following here...
 
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I'll just recommend Built to Spill. My favorite band ever. Listen to "I Wouldn't Hurt a Fly", "Car", and "Carry the Zero".

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What are the most popular indie bands that people would recognize by name if there are any?

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I would say the shins, spoon or wilco.

Georgia Avenue 12-27-2005 03:53 PM

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Sebadoh est LA BOMBA.

BTW: Is "indie" still short for something, or is it just a word now? The music-nit complaint that "indie" bands are no longer on independent labels is so tired and seems almost superfluous to the genre...(Like that dumb: "MTV doesn't even play videos" or "Rap is CRAP deheheh" moranity)...it has come to mean a particular sound and style, and why not?

I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous"...maybe we should just declare that indie is short for something else...

--GA

PS: Eurotrash est LA BOMBA aussi...

MonkeeMan 12-27-2005 04:23 PM

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I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous

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Wow, that's some wicked middle school vocab. Now if you thought it was the soundtrack from Raiders of the Lost Ark I would guess you were from the US, now I'm guessing some alien place like Mars or France.

Emmitt2222 12-27-2005 04:31 PM

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I would recommend the Decemberists and Iron and Wine.

both of these are pretty obscure and if you ever find yourself in a hipster argument with Jack of Arcades or CallMeIshmael you can just drop either name and instantly claim the upper hand.


I'd advise staying far, far away from bands like Modest Mouse who have "music videos" on television. they are [censored] sellouts and have already killed their cred. you will be a laughing stock if you listen to this.

also, don't forget some of The Clash to keep it real/old school.


good luck, and just remember that when you debate hipster music on this board the true masters are going to try to overwhelm you with the most obscure stuff just to make you feel like less of a person. sometimes they'll even make up bands/albums/songs just to test you. if you find yourself in one of these situations, just remember that while the person talks big and tough, on the inside he is just a little boy in Spain playing pianos filled with flames.

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OMG are you on lately.

ESP the part in gold... genius, pure genius!!

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I was chuckling the whole way and I hit that line and I just started cracking up.

Georgia Avenue 12-27-2005 04:34 PM

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I remember the first time I heard the term, in middle school, I thought it had something to do with "India" or "Indigeneous

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Wow, that's some wicked middle school vocab. Now if you thought it was the soundtrack from Raiders of the Lost Ark I would guess you were from the US, now I'm guessing some alien place like Mars or France.

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I love the way your quote of my quote left off the last ". Very meta. You're like a turtlely indie thinker.

BTW I'm from DC. So there's that.

--GA

Eurotrash 12-27-2005 06:01 PM

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PS: Eurotrash est LA BOMBA aussi...

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thanks, I think.

Jack of Arcades 12-27-2005 06:07 PM

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Your post seems to indicate you think Ben Gibbard is a part of iron and wine. he is not. that is sam beam's work, and it is amazing - especially his last two releases (our endless numbered days and woman king)

IndieMatty 12-27-2005 06:08 PM

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Your post seems to indicate you think Ben Gibbard is a part of iron and wine. he is not. that is sam beam's work, and it is amazing - especially his last two releases (our endless numbered days and woman king)

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Shut up you arrogant hipster freak.

Jack of Arcades 12-27-2005 06:08 PM

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your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

CallMeIshmael 12-27-2005 06:13 PM

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Your post seems to indicate you think Ben Gibbard is a part of iron and wine. he is not. that is sam beam's work, and it is amazing - especially his last two releases (our endless numbered days and woman king)

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Oddly enough, I like creek the best. Though, Im a really big fan of all 3.

Eurotrash 12-27-2005 06:14 PM

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your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

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well I guess a backhanded compliment is better than no compliment at all.

thanks, Jack. I never knew you thought so highly of my posts

Jack of Arcades 12-27-2005 06:21 PM

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Here are some of my favorite albums of 2005:

Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary - indie rock
M.I.A. - Arular - hip hop
Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - funny, catchy pop rock
Broken Social Scene - self-titled - catchy as all hell.
Bright Eyes - Digital Ash in a Digital Urn - better than Postal Service
Why? - Elephant Eylash - pretty good indie rock from a rapper
Lou Barlow - EMOH - acoustic, folky pop stuff from the driving force of Sebadoh
Fiery Furnaces - EP - spastic pop
Spoon - Gimme Fiction - good pop/rock from the best rock band on the planet
Beck - Guero - it's Beck!
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning - really great country/americana/whatever you wanna call it
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - piano, horns, and a banjo
Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die - cutesy, spastic pop that's really good
LCD Soundsystem - self-titled - great dance music
Russian Futurists - Our Thickness - weird pop music
Decemberists - Picaresque - just plain weird. but catchy.
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - catchy rock stuff. besides, the lead singer's black, expand your horizons.
Silverjews - Tanglewood Numbers - catchy southern rock stuff
The Boy Least Likely To - The Best Party Ever - quirky pop
The Evens - The Evens - a must if you have any idea who minor threat or fugazi is.
DangerDoom - The Mouse and the Mask - gotta have it if you watch adult swim
Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Grrl Rock
New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Great pop rock stuff from an indie supergroup
Ladytron - Witching Hour - electronic pop
Iron and Wine - Woman King - fleshed out folk stuff.

Jack of Arcades 12-27-2005 06:21 PM

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creek bores me to death.

Jack of Arcades 12-27-2005 06:27 PM

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your best post ever, which honestly isn't tough considering the other ones kinda suck.

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well I guess a backhanded compliment is better than no compliment at all.

thanks, Jack. I never knew you thought so highly of my posts

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oh, you're witty no doubt. it's just kinda annoying. if you weren't talking about me it'd be kinda funny I guess.

I display much more of the attitude I'm (jokingly) accused of when it comes to sports than music though.


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