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AceHiStation 12-13-2005 07:52 PM

3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
Have been playing about half an hour fairly TAGGish. Haven't shown down a hand worse than TPTK, and have shown a set and two pair. I've heard a few people, including duck claim "I'll never fold Kings preflop online short-handed." Does this look like an obvious enough spot to laydown Kings? Also, what are everyones thoughts on my minraise when action comes back around to me? I'd put villains stats up but I didn't have GT+ up at the time so I didn't have the stats available to me.
Thanks,
-Ace


$600 NL Texas Hold'em (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: AceHiStation ( $1306.15 )
Seat 3: RavenQ ( $715.10 )
Seat 2: smv78 ( $235.70 )
Seat 4: yunonymous ( $662.10 )
Seat 6: NBoyea3 ( $181.20 )
Seat 5: just4fun455 ( $176 )
yunonymous posts small blind [$3].
just4fun455 posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AceHiStation [ Kh Ks ]
NBoyea3 calls [$6].
AceHiStation raises [$30].
smv78 folds.
RavenQ folds.
yunonymous raises [$122].
just4fun455 folds.
NBoyea3 is all-In [$175.20]
AceHiStation raises [$246.20].
yunonymous is all-In [$537.10]



AceHiStation calls [$385.90].
or
AceHiStation folds.

Bukem_ 12-13-2005 08:05 PM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
I'm not folding.

I don't have a ton of hands on him, but definitely enough of a donkey that I put the money in.

40/10, overplays some hands, slowplayed one set, doesn't always have a full stack.

Raven 12-13-2005 09:29 PM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
It cost you 385 to win 1100, so you need to win 26 % of the time to be correct, against AA you need to win 19 % of the time to break-even.

With that much pot odds I think you have to call, and Yunonimous dont seem to be a tight player from what I've seen from him.

Kirkrrr 12-13-2005 09:33 PM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
I call. I'll maintain that you'll see AKs/QQ/AQs here often enough that folding is incorrect.

Kirk

AceHiStation 12-13-2005 10:46 PM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
I caled. Big stacks AA held up, my KK took 2nd(for $0), and the shorty flipped up QQ. Kinda rare for a 6-max game. Glad to see other people get allin here too. I feel like I've ran into aces with my kings a lot recently and considered the fold, but figured the pot was so huge I'd go on uber-tilt had my hand been good. Thanks for the responses,
-Ace

12-13-2005 11:29 PM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
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but figured the pot was so huge I'd go on uber-tilt had my hand been good

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so in other words, you had pot odds to call, and you did. Well played.

tdomeski 12-14-2005 12:59 AM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
putting in that last raise pf was very very bad imo. you let any hands you have dominated get away too easy. if you are going to play a big pot with KK you might as well play it so that the money gets in the way you want it to vs opponents hand range.

as stands you pretty much have to call b/c the pot is laying you a lot...hopefully you suckout or see qq and hold.

also quit putting players names in posts. it's just the wrong thing to do.

BobboFitos 12-14-2005 01:59 AM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
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also quit putting players names in posts. it's just the wrong thing to do.

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although you're prolly right, it's alot of fun to see a familiar opponent in a post

college_boy 12-14-2005 02:37 AM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
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also quit putting players names in posts. it's just the wrong thing to do.

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Many disagree.

tdomeski 12-14-2005 02:42 AM

Re: 3/6: Easy preflop KK laydown?
 
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Many disagree.

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Raw hand histories are hard to follow, and keeping players names in the hand and then posting it in a public forum is wrong. If you want to compare notes on players do so in a private manner.

I also think you are wrong in your assumption that many people disagree.

The only time I don't mind saying an opponent's name in a thread is when the opponent's name adds something to thread's content (i.e. playing a pot with Mahatma or B Buddy).


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