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jasonHoldEm 12-04-2005 05:19 AM

KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Villian is loose neutral and min-raises are standard for him. I pretty much hate how I played this, but couldn't be sure where I was. Push on flop? check/call river? ugh...

EDITED TO ADD: It's frustrating because I'm ahead of everything except AT (obviously) and I can totally see him playing in this manner with QQ-JJ, two painted cards for two pair, and maybe AK...I feel he would have come back at me with AA preflop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($24)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($31.85)</font>
UTG ($24.65)
UTG+1 ($104.61)
UTG+2 ($24.76)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($43.10)</font>
MP2 ($43.21)
MP3 ($28.30)
CO ($25.80)
Button ($21.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($28.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

River: ($28.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $17.85 (All-In), MP1 calls $17.85.

Final Pot: $63.80

beavens 12-04-2005 06:04 AM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
raise more pf - to 2.5 or 3ish

pot the flop - and push when 3betted.

as played, i'm glad you got your money in.

TheWorstPlayer 12-04-2005 01:33 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Whoa, that is some ugly flop play. Bet full pot. Push if raised.

Hattifnatt 12-04-2005 01:34 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Raise more after he made it 4. As played push (or close to) after the his last reraise.

12-04-2005 01:52 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise more pf - to 2.5 or 3ish

pot the flop - and push when 3betted.

as played, i'm glad you got your money in.

[/ QUOTE ]

jasonHoldEm 12-04-2005 02:23 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Thanks guys, I find one of my biggest problems right now is not making large enough bets early in the hand (especially when I have a big hand and should want to play a big pot with it)...my mind still hasn't shifted out of limit mode I guess...but I'm getting there.

Peace,
J

Hattifnatt 12-04-2005 02:25 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Its the bets early in the hand even if they are "small" that makes the pot big fast enough (without have to overbet later) and gives away less information than small ("begging for a call") type of bets...

davekngs 12-04-2005 02:27 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
This hand plays itself really. 2$ preflop. pot the flop and push if he reraises. if he has A10 then your very unlucky, Im guessin he is drawing and if he calls great

jasonHoldEm 12-04-2005 02:29 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
Yeah, right now (well...*up until now*) my standard continuation-type bet on the flop has automatically been half the pot whether I hit or not and without really thinking about flop texture and my opponent's range of hands. I need to start making these sort of adjustments and size my bets accordingly, of course, that's probably one of the most difficult things to learn properly. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

J

EDIT: Fixed a typo

4_2_it 12-04-2005 03:45 PM

Re: KK on a painted flop NL25
 
What's with the min-raise sissy fight on the flop? This ain't no sorority pillow fight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

3-bet that puppy all-in. You are probably ahead and if not you have redraws.


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