3 betting this river excessive?
 

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

Sure seems like it.

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

Yes

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

But what the hell could he have that beats hero other than a strangely played AA... I see a couple of hands that he might play this way that don't beat hero, though. Like Aces up, or a lower set. I don't think this is way wrong...

EDIT: Sorry, obviously 78, messed positions up. Ok, I agree it's excessive...

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

You overlooked the [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flush too.

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

WIth a 2-flush on the board you must 3-bet this flop or call his flop raise and lead the turn. You should NEVER call his flop bet and check the turn.

I would 3-bet this river. I don't think he's capping a flush draw on the turn or a hand that includes an 8. I think he can play A9, A6, or 66 the same way. If he smooth called your 3-bet preflop with AA then I think he waits until the turn to pop you. I can't see him raising the flop with it.

Post the results, please.

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

He turned over 78o. I got raped

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

With the turn action it's a lot less likely... I mean he could have a pair and flush draw, but it has to be one of the two lower pairs. I doubt he'd go nuts on the turn with that.

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

I don't 3-bet this river. If it was a non-spade I would consider it.

Re: 3 betting this river excessive?
 

3 betting the river is suicide. Paying off the 4 bet is beyond that.