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bones 10-03-2005 02:20 PM

Folding sets in the 22s
 
Villian is solidish. I'd taken down the last 2 pots, showing aces once.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

UTG (t900)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t705)
CO (t1560)
Button (t1150)
SB (t1295)
Hero (t1590)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, SB calls t100.

Turn: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian pushes for ~1000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t400

As I'm thinking, he says "I have it." I believe him.

ZeroPointMachine 10-03-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
I think you have to raise this PF. Your giving away too much value with the best hand. Your almost guaranteed to see over cards on the flop and villian can have almost any 2. You won't flop a set with villian catching enough to get involved often enough. Raise to T150 and take it down or atleast define the "solid" villians hand.

As you played it I probably call. You may have the best hand. You have ten outs if you don't. I can't give villian that much credit here.

raptor517 10-03-2005 02:39 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
make it 150 preflop. holla

Dr_Jeckyl_00 10-03-2005 02:56 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
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make it 150 preflop. holla

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This surprises me. I thought it is standard to limp pre-flop during the early levels. Are you saying to raise it because it was folded to small blind and he only completed? So if there are other limpers pre-flop, then checking would be correct, right?

Vee Quiva 10-03-2005 03:35 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
You're 8 to 1 to make a set on the flop. You usually want 3 or 4 callers in the pot to give you the correct implied odds.

In your case, in the BB, you don't care how many are in the pot as long as no one raises.

In this hand, with it folded to the small blind, you need to think more about heads up strategy. Against a random hand, you are a big favorite. Make him pay to see the flop.

Plus you have position the whole hand, so play aggressively.

As for your original question, I make the crying call hoping to hit the full house. He may have had it this particular time, but my experience is that it is usually bad to fold a set with cards yet to come.

pokerdirty 10-03-2005 03:38 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
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As for your original question, I make the crying call hoping to hit the full house. He may have had it this particular time, but my experience is that it is usually bad to fold a set with cards yet to come.

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you call when he pushes 1000 into a 400 pot?

jeffraider 10-03-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
I'm a little shocked. He TELLS YOU HE HAS IT AND WAY OVERBETS THE POT. DOES THAT ACTUALLY SMELL LIKE SOMETHING A SOLID PLAYER WOULD DO WITH A STRAIGHT?!?!?!?!

WTF:!

Also raise preflop because of hand strength, position postflop and just plain [censored] you don't complete when I'm BB value.

10-03-2005 04:19 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
good fold. you have plenty of chips left, its early and you dont need to risk that many chips this early on. Ya, its rough to flop a set and have to lay it down, but I think it was the right move...

lwspoker69 10-03-2005 04:32 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
I think I insta-push this??

junkmail3 10-03-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Folding sets in the 22s
 
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you call when he pushes 1000 into a 400 pot?

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Very quickly.


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