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schwza 12-20-2005 11:29 AM

lot of action for QQ super level 3
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1262)
UTG (t900)
UTG+1 (t2905)
UTG+2 (t1390)
MP1 (t2143)
Hero (t1805)
MP3 (t1240)
CO (t1760)
Button (t2180)
SB (t1055)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t225</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t225, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t140.

Flop: (t720) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t375</font>, Button calls t375, UTG+2 calls t375.

Turn: (t1845) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, hero?

utg+2 had been on aggro side pre-flop, but don't remember anything else.

i have 1205, utg+2 has 790, button covers.

gumpzilla 12-20-2005 11:40 AM

Re: lot of action for QQ super level 3
 
I think button is probably on a range of JJ+, which isn't so great for you. UTG+2 I don't have as good a sense for. I think I'd check here. If button bets and UTG+2 folds, then I'll stay to the end. If button bets and UTG+2 calls, I'm folding. If button checks behind, I'd probably check-call most river bets according to the same scheme I just mentioned.

Sam T. 12-20-2005 12:19 PM

Re: lot of action for QQ super level 3
 
First reaction: This early you've got way too many donkeys out there to worry that you might be behind. Yeah, a set may be out there, but I don't smell AA or KK. There are a few draws that may be out (not smart draws, but if someone is on A6s, they may be hanging around), so get 'em in there now.

Upon further reflection: What possible draws could these guys be on? Yeah, maybe it's a donkefied A7, A2, 88, or whatever, but I think you have to think about a slow-played set. Check here, and keep the pot reasonable. I do think, however, that unless an Ace falls and you see all kinds of action, you'll call most river bets.

I'd probably push.

schwza 12-20-2005 01:29 PM

Re: lot of action for QQ super level 3
 
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I think I'd check here. If button bets and UTG+2 folds, then I'll stay to the end. If button bets and UTG+2 calls, I'm folding.

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this was my first thought, because i agree that if the button bets and utg+2 calls/raises, i should fold. but i don't think that line will happen very often, so it won't save me my stack that often. i really don't want to give free cards to misc. hands like 68, A7, 67. i also don't want to lose 99/JJ if an A comes (or get blown off my hand).

i only have 2/3 pot left, so i thought that not losing the whole pot to a free card was more important than trying to preserve what little i had left if i was behind.

Roman 12-20-2005 01:36 PM

Re: lot of action for QQ super level 3
 
this is a tough one. One one hand, you dont want the chance of two people seeing a free card, and you are likely pot commited. On the other, you are very likely behind with a button coldcaller and UTG+2 who has called a lot of bets, his flop call especially scares me. I think in the heat of the moment id just shove it in there and pray, but lookin at the TOTALLY dry board, I think id get in vs button and c/f if UTG shows any more strength.


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