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wacki 12-19-2005 11:51 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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I'm not refusing to see anything. I'm tryign to aggregate it. If I started signing valentine's cards with "[swastika] Evan" because I was using it as a symbol of love, would that make it not a symbol of Naziism?

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In Korea, this would be fine. In deutschland, this would be bad.

Context, Context, CONTEXT!!!!!

Evan 12-19-2005 11:52 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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Holy [censored] did you just called this arguement

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Go to dollywood and get a bigger sample set.

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stupid and then follow it up with something this goddamn dumb?

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I'm not refusing to see anything. I'm tryign to aggregate it. If I started signing valentine's cards with "[swastika] Evan" because I was using it as a symbol of love, would that make it not a symbol of Naziism?

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Can you explain why this is dumb? I don't get it and neither do a couple people I've asked.

sublime 12-19-2005 11:53 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
I don't get it and neither do a couple people I've asked.

did you ask them in ther MOD FORUM?????


mwahaahahahahahaaaa http://www.g21.net/2000grax/dracula11.gif

ThaSaltCracka 12-19-2005 11:53 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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Wacki, when's the last time you saw an American Indian sporting the swastika?

[/ QUOTE ] I don't mean to be a nit, but I do believe I saw either an Indian or some Indian artifact, either in person or on TV with a swastika on their clothes/art. I do not recall specifics, but I think this sample size is suffice.

Evan 12-19-2005 11:54 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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I'm not refusing to see anything. I'm tryign to aggregate it. If I started signing valentine's cards with "[swastika] Evan" because I was using it as a symbol of love, would that make it not a symbol of Naziism?

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In Korea, this would be fine. In deutschland, this would be bad.

Context, Context, CONTEXT!!!!!

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We're in America. I don't think Korean context is really relevant. In some places it might be okay for me to shoot you for for disagreing with me, I don't need you to point out that it's not okay in this context since we're not in wherever.

Evan 12-19-2005 11:56 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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Wacki, when's the last time you saw an American Indian sporting the swastika?

[/ QUOTE ] I don't mean to be a nit, but I do believe I saw either an Indian or some Indian artifact, either in person or on TV with a swastika on their clothes/art. I do not recall specifics, but I think this sample size is suffice.

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My question was meant to be time-based, not instance-based. I was the one that pointed out in irc that it was originally an american indian symbol. My point is that it has taken on a different meaning in our culture.

ThaSaltCracka 12-19-2005 11:58 PM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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My point is that it has taken on a different meaning in our culture.

[/ QUOTE ] [censored], I think it has a very different meaning for any culture that has had moving pictures since the 1930's. So I disagree with wacki here, atleast in regards to the swastika.

TheRover 12-20-2005 12:00 AM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
You're using something totally unrealistic and ridiculous to argue against tsc's reasonable comments and right after mocking wacki's ridiculous statement. It just bugged me.

Or I'm reading it wrong.

Evan 12-20-2005 12:01 AM

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My point is that it has taken on a different meaning in our culture.

[/ QUOTE ] [censored], I think it has a very different meaning for any culture that has had moving pictures since the 1930's. So I disagree with wacki here, atleast in regards to the swastika.

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Challah!

wacki 12-20-2005 12:02 AM

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 
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Wacki, when's the last time you saw an American Indian sporting the swastika?

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The last time I was on an Indian reservation for purposes other than gamboling..ing... 2 years ago.

Still, arguement is irrelevant.

I think the major problem here is that the flag means different things for people on different sides of the country.

The solution? "When in Rome...."


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