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Jeff W 07-13-2005 12:56 AM

Min betting and min raising.
 
Would I automatically show a profit if I:

1. Reraised big on every minraise preflop?

2. Put in a big raise anytime someone minbets?

3. Folded to every post flop minraise or min-checkraise?

Bosox 07-13-2005 01:03 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
probably no, maybe, mostly yes. IMO: 1 and 3 are basically opposites of each other - the underlying theory: Minraises are worthy of fear esp postflop.
But really, i'm not answering anything because you CANT ignore the fact that it's all read- and player- dependant.

this thread seems familiar...
sox


ajmargarine 07-13-2005 01:06 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Would I automatically show a profit if I:

1. Reraised big on every minraise?

2. Put in a big raise anytime someone minbets?

3. Folded to every post flop minraise or min-checkraise?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. No
2. No
3. No

Too generic of a question. And the word automatic is like the word always. But this should be a topic of discussion on this forum...As we are constantly facing miniraises at our limits....and many in this forum recommend folding almost always in the face of this miniraising epidemic, seeing sets and boats and made flushes and ghosts behind every donk's click of the default raise button.

EDIT: oops, thought I was reading my normal small stakes forum, where we are advised to head for the hills when someone miniraises. Carry on.

Jeff W 07-13-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
I know nothing is automatic. I do not want to include unnecessary parameters to constrain discussion.

AZK 07-13-2005 01:20 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
I'm sure you datamine.

Make a list of all the players you encounter at 2/4 3/6 whatever that minraise. Go into PT after about a week of datamining their [censored], and look at every situation where they do it. It means different things for certain players. One regular 3/6, 5/10 player on party always minraises the flop when he hits a set. Makes it very easy to play against him, you get the idea....

tdomeski 07-13-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
In general. .

1. No
2. No
3. No

flawless_victory 07-13-2005 01:41 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
[ QUOTE ]
In general. .

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES

[/ QUOTE ]FYP

rwperu34 07-13-2005 03:57 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Would I automatically show a profit if I:

1. Reraised big on every minraise preflop?

2. Put in a big raise anytime someone minbets?

3. Folded to every post flop minraise or min-checkraise?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. No, but close (agianst most players) if you do it with playable hands and count all the times they fold to your continuation bet on the flop. Certianly yes if you count the times you actually hit a hand on the flop and they pay you off.

2. I treat a mini bet (anything less than 10% of the pot) as a check, and play my hand accordingly.

3. No. A mini raise is just a raise. Most players don't vary, they either mini raise or don't. You need to factor in your opponents raising standards, stack sizes, and outs to make that decision.

durrrr 07-13-2005 08:44 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
Min bets inherently give away too much information at too little of a price- but the information varies from opponent to opponent. Also they let you draw cheaper than you should be able to (for people who min bet instead of making a decent sized bet).

1. no
2. no
3. no

just outplay minbettors... they are ugly, dont feel you need to do something special to deal with the minbet, as then you become the money losing ugly one.

-durrrr

excession 07-13-2005 09:01 AM

Re: Min betting and min raising.
 
Why don't you play 20,000+ low-stake hands like this and come back and tell us?


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