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gildwulf 12-11-2005 12:12 AM

5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
Opponent is typical over-aggressive and LAGGY (44/17/2.6).

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $7.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

Flop: (5.80 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.90 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.90 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.90 BB

mikeyworm 12-11-2005 12:21 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
I'd fold the turn. And then I'd fold the river.

hemstock 12-11-2005 01:32 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
I can't find any good reason to call the turn. Tell me 1 possible hand that you beat and I'll tell you 10 that you don't. Your outs to improve (if you really have any) are very very slim.

MicroBob 12-11-2005 01:49 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
Is he going crazy with TT or A5 here? Probably not.

You check and show weakness on the turn...but that's okay because I don't think he's going to bet at it if he doesn't at least have you J's beat.

You can almost consider bet-folding the turn just to make sure. but if he wasn't on the flush-draw, then that means he certainly has enough of a hand where he's going to call down your represented flush.

Turn fold and then river fold are both correct I think

LoaferGee12 12-11-2005 02:15 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
Given the aggression of this guy, I would've just called that flop and check-raised the turn. Once I see the king tho I go in to call-down mode.

smartalecc5 12-11-2005 04:04 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
Its surprising to see all of you guys advocate fold the turn. Maybe this is a leak of mine. 95% of the time if i flop top pair I'll see a showdown. eeks

MicroBob 12-11-2005 04:37 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
OK...I just saw that the read on this guy is that he is really LAGgy.
With that in mind you have to call down.
With those kind of stats he really could be doing this with a worse hand than J's and is just trying to push you out with the big, bad, scary flush-card.

I've called-down after capped flops and scary turns and the opponent can end up showing UI 86o or something.

Peter Harris 12-11-2005 07:23 AM

Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK
 
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I've called-down after capped flops and scary turns and the opponent can end up showing UI 86o or something.

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yeah but on this board he'd river the straight [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I think if you have a solid read that this person is a habitual bluffer then you can see a SD, but i feel icky doing it.


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