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wiggs73 12-24-2005 09:25 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
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This was my first hand at the table, no reads. I feel like I messed up by scaring the villain away with my turn raise, he let his timer wind down before he holded.
On the turn, if you thought villain was holding AK or AJ, do you raise to avoid being 4-outered? Or is it better to just call so you can get him to fire a second barrel on the river? What if you thought he had AQ? Is it correct to just call since he is drawing dead anyway, or raise for value/raise to try to make it look like you're making a move with AK/AJ?
And yes I agree, the title for my post is unbelievably gay, but what can I say, I'll do what it takes to get feedback.


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $25 BB (5 handed) converter

UTG ($3584)
MP ($738)
Button ($2558.50)
SB ($2582)
Hero ($2500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $160</font>, SB calls $110.

Flop: ($320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($320) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $320</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $720</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $1360
Hero wins $1360.

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This isn't OOT or World Poker Tour, etc. You don't need a ridiculous title to get people to read it. Generally, on the more strategy oriented forums, a title like "TT turn raise at NL 10/25" will work fine and get you plenty of responses. As an added bonus, the thread won't get hijacked with people flaming you for the title.

As for the hand in question, the standard play would probably be to c-bet the flop. Did you have a read that the villain check-raises with good hands OOP or something? Discussing why you checked behind on the flop might would be good / helpful.

On the turn, you're probably way ahead of his range and would be safe to call. I wouldn't worry too much about getting rivered by a straight and with no flush draws out, you're probably safe to call. You're in position and you can always fire out a value bet on the river if it gets checked to you. The turn raise isn't bad or anything but there might have been a bit more value in a call.

BobboFitos 12-24-2005 09:30 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
I sometimes check the flop like this in certain situations. If anything, only thing I do differently is crank turn big.

Sponger15SB 12-24-2005 09:33 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
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I customized that title just for you Sponger. Glad to see you liked it.

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I thought so

12-24-2005 10:03 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
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I dont know why you didnt bet the flop

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Me neither. Not a standard line for me.

HoldEmKillah 12-24-2005 10:23 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
If I've been raising quite a bit and c-betting a ton then this is a spot where I will check the flop to 'mix it up.' If I wanna mix it up by checking after PFR'ing then I'd rather do it here than c-betting an AK9 flop while holding 67s.

the way it was played I'd likely be raising turn to 800ish.

xorbie 12-24-2005 11:02 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
i think flop check isn't bad, TT is probably good but no reason to build a huge pot, youre protecting a 6 outer at most.

Chaostracize 12-24-2005 11:14 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
Yes and no, I mean if a J, K, or A hits will you be happy? That's more than just 6 cards you don't want to see. You can still get value on the flop by betting here. I don't like the check generally, although I probably will check about 15-25% of the time.

The bad thing also about checking this flops is that hero's hand looks a LOT like AK. Hero will be facing a non-A/K turn with a bet often and this is a spot that can be avoided by just betting flop. By reraising pf hero has already stated that he's willing to start building the pot early, and I'd much rather keep the heat on then start dealing with "what does this bet mean?" on the turn.

yvesaint 12-24-2005 11:17 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
ha! i am posting here w/no content at all! your title plan has backfired

Yeti 12-24-2005 11:26 PM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
God this is boring.

Merry xmas.

AZK 12-25-2005 01:46 AM

Re: HAY GUYZ I\'M JJACKOFF OMG LOL BRB BBQ I LOVE CAPS NAMBLA
 
wow this thread is retarded.


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