Re: PF Stuff
 

"2) Coldcall."

i really can't think of any hand where im just gonna coldcall CO's iso-raise...definitely not with QJo...

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I would play the AJo in both cases and not the QJo. If I'm playing I'm 3 betting.

-DeathDonkey

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I would play the AJo in both cases and not the QJo. If I'm playing I'm 3 betting.

-DeathDonkey

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^^^ This wins

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Is the main reason because we're not wanting to give the BB 7:1?

Would it change your mind to a call if the BB was a 10 vpip and folded his BB to a raise > 85%?


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Yes, this would impact my decision. However, I think it is easier to play the hand having 3 bet because we are in that situation much more frequently and I think most of us feel more comfortable having the lead / aggression. I'm sure this hand is +EV to coldcall with but alot of us would have a harder time figuring out what to do postflop so I default to 3 betting. Of course expecting to have the best hand is the biggest reason to 3 bet.

-DeathDonkey

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In response to the debate on the SB hand...

I think the lack of position is actually the reason to 3-bet rather than CC here...By taking charge of the hand PF, your continuation bet on the flop actually means something, and you have your best chance of knocking Button off his hand early.

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Is there any chance the fish folds to the 3-bet and you end up isolating yourself? Actually what am I saying? Nevermind.

Are you reading books again? I wish
 

you would stop that xxxx and just play. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'd 3-bet AJo from either position and fold QJo from either.

As per your post below...I don't believe position has to be worth a full SB or more to make the difference though. I do believe position in this particular situation...that is likely 3 handed pot with a hand with unimproved showdown value...is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of ~.5 SB's. But with some hand...probably ATo I would draw the line and stop 3-betting from the SB while still 3-betting from the button. But I've had a few drinks tonight so maybe not.