Jacks on the bubble +1
 

Opponents seem typical. Haven't seen them do anything particularly stupid, but the initial raiser is probably one of the weaker players.

***** Hand History for Game 1928952583 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:11496166 Level:6 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, April 21, 15:58:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 11645 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: nott0m ( $1750 )
Seat 2: Oahuraised ( $1230 )
Seat 4: jshader1 ( $1365 )
Seat 8: Kingmamajama ( $2955 )
Seat 10: rambling_man ( $700 )
Trny:11496166 Level:6
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nott0m [ Js Jd ]
Oahuraised raises [600].
jshader1 is all-In [1365]
Kingmamajama folds.
rambling_man folds.

Hero's action?

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

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Opponents seem typical. Haven't seen them do anything particularly stupid, but the initial raiser is probably one of the weaker players.

***** Hand History for Game 1928952583 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:11496166 Level:6 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, April 21, 15:58:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 11645 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: nott0m ( $1750 )
Seat 2: Oahuraised ( $1230 )
Seat 4: jshader1 ( $1365 )
Seat 8: Kingmamajama ( $2955 )
Seat 10: rambling_man ( $700 )
Trny:11496166 Level:6
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nott0m [ Js Jd ]
Oahuraised raises [600].
jshader1 is all-In [1365]
Kingmamajama folds.
rambling_man folds.

Hero's action?

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thing is, you dont want to play these here against 2 others (seems likely, right?)...you them both covered but they have the same size stack so you dont benefit by having 2nd best hand either.

So yeah, it could turn out to be A4s and 99 but hey, Id feel ok laying these down and being 1 step closer to the money...Im sure others will disagree here but I would lay this down.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

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thing is, you dont want to play these here against 2 others (seems likely, right?)...you them both covered but they have the same size stack so you dont benefit by having 2nd best hand either.

So yeah, it could turn out to be A4s and 99 but hey, Id feel ok laying these down and being 1 step closer to the money...Im sure others will disagree here but I would lay this down.

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Being against two (likely) hands that has overcards with JJ is something I am very uncomfortable with. AA-QQ, AK would be calls for me here, but JJ I fold (unless I have good reason to believe the other two to be morons.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

Does nobody think UTG might lay down weak overcards following an all-in and a call?

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

I would reraise all in. I am sure many others would disagree, but I think the odds are very good you have both of them praying on a shared ace or worse. You might bust where you could have limped ITM, but if you triple up here you should be primed to take all the chips. To me, the +EV of the call here is greater than the fear of surviving.

I am sure others will disagree with me. I am still learning SNG's though, so I'd like to hear their reasoning.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

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Does nobody think UTG might lay down weak overcards following an all-in and a call?

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It's possible. I know I wouldn't put half my stack in the middle without being prepared to play the hand no matter what. If anything I would say the minraise tells us he really like his hand. But it's down to how you guess the player thinks.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

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Does nobody think UTG might lay down weak overcards following an all-in and a call?

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not a chance in hell. he already put half his chips in the pot. i would fold here and push the next 10 hands in a row. holla

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

I'm fairly new at this so correct me if I'm wrong. There's 450 in blinds, 600 he put in, 600 from the all in guy and 600 from you he will be calling so he'll have to call another 600 to win 2250. At this point, I'm not sure I would lay this down if I was UTG.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

I dont think it is a bad fold. If the initial raiser calls(as he should), then either he or the reraiser will practically be busted, and there is someone who has 700 left. Assuming you dont call, you would probably be in the money. If you call, it is likely you are up against a bunch of overcards and your equity is not that high against both of them. I dont like laying down JJ preflop when it is probably the best hand, but I think it was a good play.

Re: Jacks on the bubble +1
 

I would lay it down. The mini raise here is usually trouble. I'm pretty sure this guy has AA or KK. What happened?