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Page Jacobson 06-22-2005 12:44 PM

10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
I was thinking(hoping) that they both had ace-big kicker and I could win a big pot and contend for 1st.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

BB (t2340)
UTG (t570)
Hero (t1640)
CO (t1633)
Button (t1317)
SB (t500)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t570 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t570, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1633 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t1063.

Flop: (t3986) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3986) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3986) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3986

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ac 9d (two pair, nines and sixes).
Hero has Jc Js (two pair, jacks and sixes).
CO has Qc Qh (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: CO wins t3986. </font>

KingDan 06-22-2005 12:47 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
Reraise UTG, don't just call. You aren't getting away from this once you call, anyway.

Hood 06-22-2005 12:56 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
I wouldn't have called the 570 initally, I would have pushed.

Karak567 06-22-2005 01:28 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
General rule of thumb: If you are prepared to call an all-in, then just go all-in. Make your opponent make the decision.

Push overtop with JJ, don't just cold call it.

Insty 06-22-2005 02:43 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
1) After calling intially I'm folding to the allin from the CO my Jacks are not going to be looking great against 2 all ins.
2) I'm not sure what I would do initially. It depends a lot on how the table is playing. I can see myself doing any of fold/call/push.

Thinking about it some more, I'm most happy with folding especially with 4 people still to act and the bigstack in the BB. Jacks are not that good.
I just wish you had not posted the results of the hand, I might be subconciously biased.

45suited 06-22-2005 02:46 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
1) After calling intially I'm folding to the allin from the CO my Jacks are not going to be looking great against 2 all ins.

[/ QUOTE ]

Calling and folding would be absolutely horrible. Push pre-flop.

Laomedon 06-22-2005 02:46 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
[ QUOTE ]

Thinking about it some more, I'm most happy with folding especially with 4 people still to act and the bigstack in the BB. Jacks are not that good.
I just wish you had not posted the results of the hand, I might be subconciously biased.

[/ QUOTE ]

Umm, sorry, but I push in this spot everytime with JJ in a 10+1. You can't play scared and hope to be successful. OP has the fourth best starting hand, you can't assume someone left to act will have QQ, KK, or AA.

PapiChulo503 06-22-2005 03:01 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
At this stage of the game im pushing with JJ after that UTG all in. You would like to make this a heads up pot, you have a decent chip stack and would rather show strength to discourage people with overcards from calling.

After the CO re-raised all in what range of hands do you put him on? I would have folded after the re-raise. You still have 10x the BB after the laydown.

Jay36489 06-22-2005 07:07 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
With no reads I'm pushing here, then yelling OH [censored] as soon as CO calls, but I would never be this far into a tournament with no reads...

lastchance 06-22-2005 07:10 PM

Re: 10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?
 
1k for 1500 of cash in a 3 way + 2k HU with Jacks... I call both times....

But I think pushing initially is by far best.


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