folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

here's a damn sad story. (and if you disagree with my play, fine, but i firmly believe it was the correct play.)

i'm playing 5 card high only $2 - $5 PL omaha

3 of us see the flop. after a raise.
on the flop there is a club draw. i bet 2/3 the pot from first position, call, call.
on the turn I hit a set of queens which is the stone cold nuts so far. i have no clubs. i check. guy bets the pot, next guy calls. i reraise the maximum. guy #2 gose all in for his little remaining money.

now remember i just came over the top, About $2600 of my money is in there.

now the last guy thinks for a while, then calls. he has $400 left. there's now $6000 in the pot.

now, since i have the nuts with a set of queens, he must have a flush draw to go with any sets, or it would be insane to call all in on just a midle set at best. I also figured he'd have gone all in for the last $400 if he didnt have a draw.

so on the river the club hits, and he goes all in for his last $400. and now i also figured, well, he knows i'm gonna call his $400. so he would never bluff here. (And i have no clubs at all in my hand) and why else would he call without the club draw?

so i folded and he had just middle set.

my story of losing $6000 for $400.

Your thoughts?

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

FPS at it's best. nh.

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

what is FPS?

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

Fancy Play Syndrome.

As for the hand, your whole conclusion assumes the premise that your opponent is reasonable. I find more often than not, people's play being unreasonable when they're shortstacked.

Although it fails to compare, so often I see people raising and reraising 66 on the flop in limit hold'em to put themselves all in vs a pf raiser on something like AQx.

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

interesting view.

anybody else?

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

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what is FPS?

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first person shooter

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

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what is FPS?

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first person shooter

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or fancy play syndrome. however, i prefer first person shooter myself.

oh, btw, rpg = role playing game

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

$400 for $6000 is 15:1, so if you called and lost 15 times; all it takes for you to break even on that $400 bet is winning 1 time. (the money youve put in the pot is already gone). if you fold on the end that money will NEVER be yours.

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

was this play money?

Re: folded $6000 pot for $400 on river.
 

I think the thing to consider is not whether he had the flush, but what's in his head? Hindsight says this:

I'm going to call this guy with my middle set anyways, so I'll slightly increase my equity by being the bettor, not the caller.

And it worked out that he increased his equity more than he thought, since you folded.