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SoBeDude 08-11-2005 09:04 AM

Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
Party 30/60

2 folds, I raise with red Jacks

Next player (73%/34/1.5) calls of course, folded to unknown in SB who also calls. BB folds.

Flop is Q 3 3, 2 diamonds.

SB checks, I bet, both call.

Turn is a Qs

Checked around.

River Ts

Checked to me. Bet?

If you say bet, why? I'm going to get called by someone holding a 3 and a missed draw is going to fold. This seems to be a "will I get called by a hand that I beat more than 50% of the time?" question.

Only if someone has a pocket pair or a T will I get called and win. (and maybe someone holding a lone ace) But is this enough to make it a bet?

Am I better off checking again and letting Mister 73% take a shot at the pot (which I will call unless SB raises)?

-Scott

SJG 08-11-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
I like checking and seeing if 73% bets .
Seems to me if you bet and are called you are beat

sjg

stigmata 08-11-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
I would of thought most people would call with an ace here, which makes me lean towards betting.

Ace, pocket pair or ten is much more likely than a 3.

Although Mr 73 is quite aggressive from the stats so theres good argument for that option, in that there may be a greater chance that everybody folds than he bluffs at it.

Robb 08-11-2005 10:07 AM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
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Seems to me if you bet and are called you are beat


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By what?

Buckshot 08-11-2005 10:51 AM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
Checking the turn leaves you questioning the appropiate river decision. A bet on the turn would cure what ails you.

But since this wasn't the case you shouldn't continue the weak turn play with another weak play. I'd bet and expect to be called with a worse pocket pair or Ace high.

~stephen

ActionBob 08-11-2005 12:40 PM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
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Seems to me if you bet and are called you are beat

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Hmmmm... If I bet and get called I'll probably start counting the pot to see how much I'm about to win.

-ActionBob

DcifrThs 08-11-2005 02:32 PM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
that Q changed nothing and was a fantastic card for you b/c loose players now thing "oh, duh, he no have queen." turn check is very costly vs. these opponents imo.

bet the turn. bet the river. this shows a little trigger shyness that you really need to get over b/c many many bets are made in pots like this.

-Barron

Dazarath 08-11-2005 02:46 PM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
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that Q changed nothing and was a fantastic card for you b/c loose players now thing "oh, duh, he no have queen." turn check is very costly vs. these opponents imo.

bet the turn. bet the river. this shows a little trigger shyness that you really need to get over b/c many many bets are made in pots like this.

-Barron

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Should the OP be betting the turn and river planning to fold to a raise?

drbk2 08-11-2005 02:50 PM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
Bet the flop bet the turn bet the river. I don't see any reason to check the Queen on the turn. Ace high, a ten, or even king high may pay you off here.

Paluka 08-11-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Board double pairs without me, Keep betting?
 
I would bet both the turn and the river. If you check the turn it should be because you are worried about getting raised and hate facing the decision. That makes it an easy river bet when the turn checks around, though.


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