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Siingo 11-29-2005 12:01 PM

Topp pair good kicker, 2 callers, what now?
 
UTG+1 is LA-P, and MP1 is sLP-P

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($18.60)
Hero ($55.25)
CO ($48.50)
Button ($26)
SB ($48.75)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($28.70)
UTG+1 ($50)
UTG+2 ($96.65)
MP1 ($61.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($8.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, CO folds, Button folds, UTG+1 calls $5, MP1 calls $5.

Turn: ($23.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero ?


How shall I proccede? I whish to protect my hand but it is expensive to protect my hand and I am not sure that I have the best hand.....

Please comment the other streets too. The miniraise preflop was probably not so good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I will post the rest of the hand later. I think that I will need some comments there too [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]...

Thanks!

4_2_it 11-29-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Topp pair good kicker, 2 callers, what now?
 
One of these guys is chasing the flush and you need to charge him for it. Plan to check down the river if necessary, but I think you gotta make a 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet here to protect your hand. If you get check-raised then you need to determine if villain is capable of check-raising a draw; if not, fold is the right play.

11-29-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Topp pair good kicker, 2 callers, what now?
 
My first response:
(If you don't have reads on people)
5 people saw the flop. That is a lot. Someone could easily have a better hand on that flop. 9T flops a straight and there wasn't much preflop action that would push the hand out. 56 made a straight on the turn and could call the flop. I doubt they are both calling along on flush draws. And mid and low pair isn't much to call on unless they have a inside straight draw too or something like that.

I say you only have top pair and a good kicker. AJ could have made a raise preflop but didn't necessary have to 10 handed. You would think they would put a bet on the flop but maybe they are just passive.

I say your hand isn't strong enough to build a large pot. I would say check and try to keep the pot small and give them a free card to their flush or possible inside straight draws. But it is somewhat dependent on your reads of your opponents. If they always call along you might reconsider.

edit: also lots of medium cards tend to see the flop cheaply and those could make two pair.


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