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FakeKramer 09-18-2005 05:35 PM

$22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 

#Game No : 2734437610
***** Hand History for Game 2734437610 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15855119 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, September 18, 17:32:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 14891 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: TheRoyalWee ( $1796 )
Seat 3: cosmo2004 ( $2260 )
Seat 6: his584 ( $2881 )
Seat 7: cobra78111 ( $1063 )
Trny:15855119 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheRoyalWee [ Td As ]
cosmo2004 folds.
his584 calls [150].
cobra78111 folds.
TheRoyalWee is all-In [1646]
his584 calls [1646].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 9s, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
TheRoyalWee shows [ Td, As ] a pair of nines.
his584 shows [ Js, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
his584 wins 3592 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and nines.
TheRoyalWee finished in fourth place.
TheRoyalWee has left the table.


I'm such a donkey. Why did I do that? What would you have done?

USCSigma1097 09-18-2005 05:38 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
A) You might want to raise to 450 ish and see what happens on the flop...

However

B) This is not a bad play...

But

C)This is a bad beat post...

Sigma

lastchance 09-18-2005 05:39 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
It's not that bad a play. You played it fine. You just got a bit unlucky.

09-18-2005 05:43 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
Yell at you? Sorry, don't have the energy.

Thinking out loud ... I almost always will raise allin with your hand if the SB limps in. how much different is it when button limps I wonder?

Quite different is my first guess, I don't think I push here. Button limping is suspicious to the n'th degree.

jeffraider 09-18-2005 06:12 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
Just fold. The stacks are wrong for this move.

john smith 09-18-2005 06:22 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
I think this is a terrible play. You're on the bubble. Villian has you covered. He limps on the button, which is a bit suspicious. If he calls your push, you're at best a coinflip, assuming villian isn't too nuts. I'd rather take a flop here and go from there. You can wait for a better spot to push.

09-18-2005 06:26 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a terrible play. You're on the bubble. Villian has you covered. He limps on the button, which is a bit suspicious. If he calls your push, you're at best a coinflip, assuming villian isn't too nuts. I'd rather take a flop here and go from there. You can wait for a better spot to push.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is wrong.

I make this play in a vaccuum every time. Perhaps you're upset because you had a read on villain that suggested not to play like this? Otherwise, this is a bad beat post.

applejuicekid 09-18-2005 06:28 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
I think I push here everytime. Can someone explain to me why this is bad play? I really can't see any other way of playing this. I thought this was standard.

john smith 09-18-2005 07:08 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
I might be a bit weak tight, and I haven't played too many SNGs so I don't have too much experience, but I really don't like pushing here. You have 11xBB, so you aren't desperate in any way. If you do get called by a typical $22 player with a decent stack, I'd say you're up against 22+, A-10+. The T375 in the pot is a little over 1/5 your stack, and I think you get called here enough to make this play unprofitable. A-10 is a good hand, and while you're in a crappy situation/out of position against a big stack, I'd rather take a flop here than throw all my chips in preflop with A-10 this early.

For those who push here, what would be your range of hands?

lastchance 09-18-2005 07:13 PM

Re: $22 - Someone Please Yell At Me and Tell Me How Much I Suck
 
The guy on the button limped. He really could have anything here, I think, especially at a $22. And he's folding a lot of that to your push with a very good AT.

Still, I think check is better. But this isn't a spot where pushing is absolutely bad.


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