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12-27-2005 01:40 PM

Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
Well, it turns out that Bush Co. refused to go to the judges for spying warrants because of who they were spying on.

Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Joe Biden, former President Jimmy Carter and Assistant Secretary of State William Burns all had their phones tapped for political reasons.

I am glad that we can now see the "national security-911-evil terraist" line of defense for what it is: an excuse to trash the constitutional rights that our fore-fathers fought and died for.

We had the capability to stop 9-11, we were tracking the hijackers. Our bloated intelligence system screwed up and a lot of people died. The 'patriot' act did not fix it.

Of course the kool-aid drinking moonbats of the authoritarian wing of the right will try to make excuses. They will attempt to muddy the waters and attack the sources.

"Well, its not like they are spying on your mom"

No, they are spying on the officials that she elected to represent her interests.

12-27-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
Link?

12-27-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special...505madsen.html

12-27-2005 02:19 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
Your source is this guy. Any other sources?

cardcounter0 12-27-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
How about Gov. Bill Richardson himself? He seems to be taking it seriously.

New Mexico Newspaper

12-27-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
From your link...

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An online journalist then speculated that Richardson's conversations with former Secretary of State Colin Powell and another U.S. official about North Korea might have been among Bolton's requests.



"The governor is upset that his conversations with Secretary Powell would be intercepted since most of them were domestic calls," said Richardson spokesman Billy Sparks. "The governor felt his calls about North Korea were confidential."

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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

12-27-2005 02:43 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
Feel free to attack the source since the information is probobly correct and completely damning to your dear leader.

cardcounter0 12-27-2005 02:44 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

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And like I said, it looks like Richardson is taking it seriously. But he was only involved with negotiations with North Korea, so what would he know?

12-27-2005 02:55 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
FWIW I think the Bush administration is utterly incompetent.

If you had used Ann Coulter as a source I would have made the same post.

12-27-2005 02:59 PM

Re: Domestic spying is about politics, not security
 
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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

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And like I said, it looks like Richardson is taking it seriously. But he was only involved with negotiations with North Korea, so what would he know?

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So if enough people quote the same bad source for info it's OK?

You must then believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al-Qaida.


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