I have 2 pair, what can I beat?
 

Pokerroom 2/4 (10 handed)

UTG+2 is a solid player. He has good/tight preflop standards, probably tighter than me but not much. Same goes for his preflop raising standards from what I've seen.

PREFLOP: Hero is in the CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds , UTG+2 calls, 1 fold , MP2 calls, 1 fold , Hero calls, button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

FLOP: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players, 6 SBs)
Both blinds check, <font color="red"> UTG+2 bets </font> , MP2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero raises </font> , 3 folds , UTG+1 calls.

TURN: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 5BBs)
UTG+2 checks, <font color="red"> Hero bets </font> , UTG+2 calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 6.5 BBs)
UTG+2 checks, Hero...

Re: I have 2 pair, what can I beat?
 

I'm guessing UTG+1 went all in on the flop? UTG+2 probably wouldn't lead out with a flush draw, knowing you're likely to raise him and blow everyone out. I'm really confused as to what he open limped with that still has him in this hand (and just checking). Sigh...I'd fire one more on the river.

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I'm guessing UTG+1 went all in on the flop?

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I'm guessing UTG+1 went all in on the flop?

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Me too...says he folded preflop. Edit: Sorry, I'm tired--that was obviously supposed to read UTG+2.

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UTG+2 probably wouldn't lead out with a flush draw, knowing you're likely to raise him and blow everyone out.

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Why in the world would he know that?

As for the hand, if he is a tight player, I can't think of a hand that he calls with that you beat with the exception of AJ. A flush draw looks very possible, so if it's somtheing like Ax he's not calling anyway. I check behind.

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UTG+2 probably wouldn't lead out with a flush draw, knowing you're likely to raise him and blow everyone out.

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Why in the world would he know that?

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Ooops...how did I get into my head that Hero raised preflop? I really am tired and should probably stop posting. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] But now doesn't that make it more likely that Villain might have open limped with Axs and then led the flop with his flush draw?

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IMO you need to bet it. If he caught the backdoor/gutshot straight he was chasing, then that's poker.

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IMO you need to bet it. If he caught the backdoor/gutshot straight he was chasing, then that's poker.

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It's just not the straight, but what about 2 pair? He's was described as solid preflop. His hand range is very narrow: AJ, KJs, QJs, J10s, Q10s, K10:clubs:. The number of hands he can have that beat us is far greater than the number of hands we beat.

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But now doesn't that make it more likely that Villain might have open limped with Axs and then led the flop with his flush draw?

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Assuming he raises AKs and AQs in clubs, what Axs hands will he call with?

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His hand range is very narrow: AJ, KJs, QJs, J10s, Q10s, K10:clubs:. The number of hands he can have that beat us is far greater than the number of hands we beat.


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Thanks for saving me the time it would have taken to write that. Sums it up about perfectly.