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Roadstar 01-15-2005 02:17 AM

ATos - Never seem to get it quite right
 
I've taken on more of a raise or fold mentality with ATos. Is the raise preflop and the call (and calling the raise) ok here?

Table is LPP city. Peculiar C/R by UTG given hes > 40% VPIP w/ 0% PFR over the last 12 hands (extremely small sample I know)

Thx

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds, Button calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

bennyk 01-15-2005 03:11 AM

Re: ATos - Never seem to get it quite right
 
Basically, don't play this preflop.

I only play it from late position if it's folded to me and I have a chance to steal or get it shorthanded.

Once you're used to not playing it, you can add it in in the right places.

bk

FreakDaddy 01-15-2005 03:26 AM

Re: ATos - Never seem to get it quite right
 
1) Don't play this pre-flop (especially from middle position)
2) How many outs do you think you have in this hand to justify a call after the flop?

AngelicPenguin 01-15-2005 04:22 AM

Re: ATos - Never seem to get it quite right
 
I would fold PreFlop and the Flop

As overcards, these aren't that great, imho.

Womble 01-15-2005 10:06 AM

Re: ATos - Never seem to get it quite right
 
AT is my biggest loser. I think it get overvalued too much. In the late MPs I like to riase either ATs or ATo if I am first in. With a caller I think ATs is playable for 1 bet only.

ITH recommends in MP to raise first in or call 1.
In LP it recommends raising ATs against 1 caller and raising AT first in, call otherwise.
In blinds, it recommends raise 1 caller.

Never play it if someone has raised


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