barfing @ 2k PL
 

villain is pandora00 or something like that, i have no reads on him at all at the time, maybe you guys do.

Party 2k Pot Limit full ring

Pandora limps UTG+1, everyone folds, sb completes, and me(3600) check with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].


flop comes 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets out 60, i raise to 240, and Pandora(covers) makes it 720 to go.

whats my plan? if youre calling the flop, whats your turn plan?

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

i think calling here sucks, and you are probably at best splitting so im thinking either push or fold.

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

He has 3.6k and pand. covers, I would rather call here than push/fold.

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

right, didnt notice pandora covers.

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

I would fold here..

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

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I would fold here..

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Why?
Pandora could have limped JJ, but than QQ, KK, and AA would be played similiarly as well.
You can't possibly credit the SB with a better hand yet. All he did was lead for pot.
I dont think you can push this flop and expect to be called by a worse hand unless you overbet push flops with draws. I would call and try to get all in on a good turn.

SB folded n/m
 

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Re: SB folded n/m
 

is it not safe to say that your opponent is doing this with a strong made hand or a strong draw?

if we can assume this a fold is trivial

Re: barfing @ 2k PL
 

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I would fold here..

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Why?
Pandora could have limped JJ, but than QQ, KK, and AA would be played similiarly as well.
You can't possibly credit the SB with a better hand yet. All he did was lead for pot.
I dont think you can push this flop and expect to be called by a worse hand unless you overbet push flops with draws. I would call and try to get all in on a good turn.

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What a noob-like analysis. IMO, the problem is we are either crushed or racing a very strong draw. I think i can find a fold here.

Re: SB folded n/m
 

What range of hands would you put on pandora..

AA, KK QQ, JJ, 7h8h, 66, 55

think of any others that are reasonable?