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Victor 12-18-2005 09:23 PM

Re: Eli Manning
 
eli will be good. one of the best in the nfl when he hits his prime. however, rothlisberger and palmer (among others) will be distinctly better.

Wes ManTooth 12-19-2005 10:24 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
Tied for last in the division last year, and now the Giants are 10-4 first in the NFC east, Eli is a big reason for this turn around. Granted it is not just him and at times he is has been inconsistent. Still at times he is money and he is the biggest reason for the Giants turn around.

Jack of Arcades 12-19-2005 10:31 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
Yeah, Eli's helped that defense so much. He's a beast at linebacker..

Wes ManTooth 12-19-2005 10:36 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
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Yeah, Eli's helped that defense so much. He's a beast at linebacker..

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The linebackers are the same from last year with exception of adding Antonio Peirce. But you are right Eli has nothing to do with the reason why the Giants are 10-4.

Jack of Arcades 12-19-2005 10:51 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
Their defense has improved much more than their offense has.

Eli's improved, yeah, but he basically went from last year's Eli to last year's Kurt Warner.

wh1t3bread 12-19-2005 10:55 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
The Giants are 10-4 because of Tiki Barber and their run blocking. Eli has been decent and he has something to do with it. But he isn't the reason they are 10-4.

Jack of Arcades 12-19-2005 10:58 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
Disagreeing with you a little here, Tiki's performance isn't much better than it was last year's. Their defense has been a big improvement, and their pass offense has gotten better, as well.

wh1t3bread 12-19-2005 11:10 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
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Disagreeing with you a little here.

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Ha. What a surprise! j/k.

I think the one major thing that Tiki has done better this year is not fumble the ball. This has been something that used to plague him in the past and he has showed great improvements the last 2 years.

brettbrettr 12-19-2005 11:10 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
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The linebackers are the same from last year with exception of adding Antonio Peirce.

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This is like saying, "Aside from winning that big tournament, this month has been mostly so-so."

brettbrettr 12-19-2005 11:13 AM

Re: Eli Manning
 
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I think the one major thing that Tiki has done better this year is not fumble the ball.

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He really didn't fumble the ball much last year either. Two years ago was really bad.


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