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Aviston 07-05-2004 02:17 PM

I r retarded
 
Ugh...

Ultimate Bet 0.01/0.02 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.01.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.
I can't believe I didn't raise preflop here. I'm not sure where my head was at. Nah, let's not send two bets to the majority of the players with the hopes of going against only 1 or 2 players with TT.

Flop: (11 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.
Cheer, I flopped a set. Let's play it fast as per usual.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.
Errrr...I'm confused, I'll just be cute and pretend like I suddenly lost my cards and check.

River: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP1 calls.
Let's pretend the only reason why MP1 called is because of my sneaky check on the turn.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP1 shows Ad 4h (one pair, tens).
Hero shows Ts Td (four of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. </font>

Sometimes I don't know why I bother playing cards.

badplayer 07-05-2004 02:57 PM

Re: I r retarded
 
You're far too advanced for penny games.
That check on the turn would have fooled me on my $0.50/$1.00 game.
You probably could have soaked MP1 for one more BB.

You take what you can get.

I don't know why I play cards either.

sublime 07-05-2004 03:51 PM

Re: I r retarded
 
preflop- 3 bet or fold

bet the freaking turn

Aviston 07-05-2004 03:58 PM

Re: I r retarded
 
[ QUOTE ]
preflop- 3 bet or fold

bet the freaking turn

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Agreed. Although, I did say as much (in a round about way) in my original post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

RED_RAIN 07-05-2004 05:01 PM

Re: I r retarded
 
[ QUOTE ]
You're far too advanced for penny games.

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Meh, I believe you should bet this turn anyways. Someone who is upfront would just have the J more than likely so perhaps the others could check/raise on the T coming. I think you will make more in the long run just betting here and hoping to get raised at some point, no one has even shown strength in this hand against him so better to get money in now on the turn.

Aviston 07-05-2004 06:08 PM

Re: I r retarded
 
[ QUOTE ]
Meh, I believe you should bet this turn anyways. Someone who is upfront would just have the J more than likely so perhaps the others could check/raise on the T coming. I think you will make more in the long run just betting here and hoping to get raised at some point, no one has even shown strength in this hand against him so better to get money in now on the turn.

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Once again I agree. Furthermore, it's possible one of them was on a flush draw and would've hung around even if I had bet out on the turn. In addition, it has been my experience that people are more willing to call with one miracle card to come rather than to sit there with nothing calling on the river. Not sure that I really would have made any more even betting on the turn, but it's still a retarded way to play this hand regardless.

wizard_1974 07-06-2004 12:30 AM

Re: I r retarded
 
"preflop- 3 bet or fold"

He is playing $0.01/$0.02. I have never played it, but I am going to guess it is a very loose game. 3 betting is great, but I think calling is a better option than folding.

I agree about betting the turn.

RED_RAIN 07-06-2004 01:43 AM

Re: I r retarded
 
Ts do better against a smaller field, if the game is in fact loose (funny how people assume this just case of stakes but most haven't played) more would call 2 cold than 3 cold. I agree, 3 bet preflop.

bisonbison 07-06-2004 02:17 AM

Re: I r retarded
 
Ts do better against a smaller field

In terms of what?

They win far far more than their share against any number of opponents.

RED_RAIN 07-06-2004 02:44 AM

Re: I r retarded
 
This is true of Ts-As. Are you saying you shouldn't 3 bet?


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