TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

My read on villain is that he is a complete moron and would call the preflop raise with a large range. He called an all in on a A 4 2 monotone board with only a Q high flush draw (the all in was about potsized). Should I take a stab at it here and if so, how much should I bet? Does any bet pretty much pot commit me?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1500 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t40285)
CO (t26814)
Button (t38299)
Hero (t29996)
BB (t8678)
UTG (t7348)
UTG+1 (t9560)
UTG+2 (t6904)
MP1 (t12565)
MP2 (t26443)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls t1500, CO calls t1500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t9000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t7500.

Flop: (t21000) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

I just shove here

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

me too.

might be some merit to check calling. But there are a decent amouuntn of crappy turn cards. so i probably push.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

push and pray

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

I like a check/push here, but pushing's okay too. I don't think you have enough to fold.

BTW, calling a pot-sized push with a flush draw is fine as the odds of hitting a flush in two cards are 36% and he only needs 33%.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

with out reading other replies,this really depends on way villain has been playing.is he loose/passive or loose/aggressive?
in this hand,he has called the BB after a limp with two blinds left to act,you make a 7500 raise,and he still calls.
what kind of hand justifies that play,well for me nothing i can thin k of really but for a loose/passive player,alot of hands like AJ,AT,A9,KQ,KJ,KT,QJ, suited or not.
now you cant really let hte hand go ,cuz chances are you do have the best hand here and seen as most of the kinda players who would play like this(limp after a limper and then call a raise of nearly 1/3 their stack) would stay with an A rather than a K then you should be too worried abt the K.
however if you do make any kind of a bet it will commit you to the pot i rather a push here than just a raise.
if he is on a flush draw he just may let it go this time but if you bet say like 5K he will call with a flush draw and he will also call any future bet of yours from turn onwards wheather he makes his flush or not.
so to me against him its a push.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

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BTW, calling a pot-sized push with a flush draw is fine as the odds of hitting a flush in two cards are 36% and he only needs 33%.

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I know you know, but this is only true if he gets to see the river for free.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

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BTW, calling a pot-sized push with a flush draw is fine as the odds of hitting a flush in two cards are 36% and he only needs 33%.

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I know you know, but this is only true if he gets to see the river for free.

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Yeah.. i was assuming the pot was 2-way.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

Yea I definitely push here. A check push is scary for me cuz I know this guy has something like qj and is gonna hit his disgusting turn card. So I wanna atleast give him the chance to fold.

Re: TT OOP - How do I proceed from here?
 

I made the mistake of checking. Villain bets 1500 into the 21000 pot. I need to push now, right? Am I correct in assuming that even a very bad player wouldn't make that type of bet to induce action?