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scotty34 06-28-2005 08:22 PM

Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
SB and BB are both pretty good TAGs from what I have seen of them. The other 3 players are LAG and almost bordering on maniac (50/15, 60/20, 90/20).

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

River: (20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero...


What the hell???

aK13 06-28-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
Since they are TAGs, they were probably chasing some sort of straight/flush draw that didn't come in, as I think they would have raised you if they had hit anything monster earlier.

The 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a blank, so I'd valuebet against the other players.

@bsolute_luck 06-28-2005 09:38 PM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
they're paying you to try for their straight/flush draws. after you win, be sure to be polite and say "thank you" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

dawade 06-29-2005 12:07 AM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
Thank them very much. These kinds of hands always put me on tilt because some freak turns over J3 or hits their flush/straight on the river!

scotty34 06-29-2005 12:47 AM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
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Thank them very much. These kinds of hands always put me on tilt because some freak turns over J3 or hits their flush/straight on the river!

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I did bet the river for value, and SB flipped over KK, and I just stared blankly for a while. I had to re-evaluate what I thought of him as a player after that. I just posted this cuz I thought it may be an interesting hand. I don't think I've seen 5 people to the river before (and only 1 folded on the river).

Hojglad 06-29-2005 05:02 AM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
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Thank them very much. These kinds of hands always put me on tilt because some freak turns over J3 or hits their flush/straight on the river!

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I did bet the river for value, and SB flipped over KK, and I just stared blankly for a while. I had to re-evaluate what I thought of him as a player after that. I just posted this cuz I thought it may be an interesting hand. I don't think I've seen 5 people to the river before (and only 1 folded on the river).

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This is the most unbelievable thing I've ever read. I knew micro players were bad, but damn. Did you thank him after the hand for not charging you about 3 or 4 more big bets?

Mercantides 06-29-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
You've obviously never played .5/1 on Party if you find this unbelievable. I had one guy make a full house and he only called my bet on the river.

Another guy folded to my bet on the river when there was a rainbow K-9 straight on the board. I had junk and was expecting to split the pot. No one said anything.

phredd 06-29-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Why won\'t anyone fold?!?
 
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I had one guy make a full house and he only called my bet on the river.

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I've had someone hit a full house on the turn, and flat call both the turn and river.

I've had someone else flat call when they had the nut flush on the river (no board pair, mind you), and I bet my under-flush into him. Stone cold nuts on the river, and he calls. I didn't say a word, but thanked heaven and made him pay through the nose to call me down a few hands later. +3BB, thanks.


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