bad slowplay
 

how dumb am i here.

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (8.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.00 BB.

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checking behind that flop is bad for business

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they'll all just fold if i bet out, and not many chances to be drawn out on.

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Whenever I try this SB shows 33. :P

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you can guess what villian showed. also his username was riverrat.. indeed.

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they'll all just fold if i bet out,

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Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em

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Really, no. Seriously, no. Don't do things like this they are -EV. Your opponents expect for you to bet. They are just waiting to call or CR. You hit the flop...big. Now go get paid.

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There are A LOT of opponents at higher stakes that limp UTG where I raise this in order to try to isolate. I would strongly consider it here against this one (but you didn't give a read, you may not need one but I have never played .5/1 6 max).

This is .5/1 and in addition it is a 4 way pot. You are not stupid to slowplay this here because you may lose this pot if you do (That isn't all the big of a catastrophe as it is only a 4 SB pot) but you are missing a ton of bets here that bozos regardless of the hand they have will call at this level. Players at this level need not a pair or even a mediocre draw to call your flop bet. Even if they did there are str8 draws and decent high cards to pair up the wazoo that these players want to call your bets with. Get your money in there in order to get their money. Further your hand isn't all that strong. There exists OESD possiblities here that you could bet against for value and some gutshot draws that a simple bet would do well to protect your hand. What happens if a T or A (which as well as completing a str8 could give someone a better two pair) hits on the turn and there is a bet and raise in front of you? But yeah, its mostly dumb because you are missing value.

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they'll all just fold if i bet out, and not many chances to be drawn out on.

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I hope you don't take this as an insult but you are so wrong.

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which part is wrong?

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which part is wrong?

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i can't find anything right about it

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which part is wrong?

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The entire statement, they will call your bets and there is a reasonable chance that you will get drawn out on.

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If any 8, 9, T, K, A, 3, any card that someone is holding a pocket pair of, or any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], or [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] comes on the turn, you could be toast or set yourself up to get toasted on the river. And you've got three opponents out there to worry about. Slam that flop bet in there and hope your hand holds up. If you win the pot right there, which won't happen very often against 3 opponents, be happy a straight, set, or better two pair didn't take it away from you.

I'll bet SB had 33 or 55 and slowplayed it until the river, so you could have a cheaper chance to hit your four out redraw which would have put a boat over boat hurting on him.

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they'll all just fold if i bet out

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If you seriously think you could get all 3 of them to fold by betting out on the button then does that mean you would just bluff at this pot with 86s here?
Of course not. Because you don't have NEARLY enough folding equity into THREE players to make a stone bluff attempt +EV.

You DO have value out of your hand though and your opponents WILL call (most of the time...if they don't then oh well).


Seriously...checkiing behind here because you think that all 3 of your opponents will fold anyway is just plain bad poker.
Even if you had specific reads on these opponents that they were super-duper weak-tight-passive post-flop I would STILL bet here because you've got 3 of them and there are so many different ways they could have caught a pice of the board where they don't want to bet but WILL call.


Your image should be such that you are betting out fairly frequently anyway (your opponents think you are ALWAYS taking shots).
When it's checked to someone on the button it's almost expected that he's going to bet at it anyway. It's not surprising and your opponents aren't going to be initimidated by it.
Take advantage of this fact by drawing bets out of your opponents when you really do hit a hand.